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> Facebook has fought vigorously against the release of the documents. It continues to argue that the documents do not paint a balanced picture of its activitie

> Facebook has fought vigorously against the release of the documents. It continues to argue that the documents do not paint a balanced picture of its activities. In an emailed statement, a company spokesperson told Business Insider: "These old documents have been taken out of context by someone with an agenda against Facebook..." I sympathize with some (it probably doesn't paint a 'balanced' picture, this person probably does have an agenda against FB) of what they're saying here but...4000 pages and the context still can't be established?

germinalphrase 7y ago
How many emails, memos, etc. does a large organization create everyday? I’m sympathetic to your point, but surely 4000 documents could be cherrypicked to present a consistent view of the company (for good or bad).
- computerex 7y ago
  That's ad hominem. The documents should be looked at in their own merit. This isn't some phrase that can be taken out of context, it's a bunch of formal documents that can be looked at to establish a line of facts related to FB's conduct.
  - bawolff 7y ago
    Its not an ad hominem. Its only an ad hominem if someone makes an unrelated personal attack against the source of an argument. The original argument was that these documents are suggestive of facebook corporate culture/evilness. A counter argument that the documents are cherry-picked by someone with a grudge (which may or may not be true) directly responds to the original claim that you can gleam a fair picture of facebook based on these documents. Thus it is not an ad hominem (that's not to say that it is necessarily a good argument)
  - edmundsauto 7y ago
    I think the previous posters point is to consider what is contained in all the other documents created by facebook that weren't leaked. Potentially impossible in practice, but worth considering what could be in those documents that would change your position.

germinalphrase 7y ago

How many emails, memos, etc. does a large organization create everyday? I’m sympathetic to your point, but surely 4000 documents could be cherrypicked to present a consistent view of the company (for good or bad).

computerex 7y ago
That's ad hominem. The documents should be looked at in their own merit. This isn't some phrase that can be taken out of context, it's a bunch of formal documents that can be looked at to establish a line of facts related to FB's conduct.
- bawolff 7y ago
  Its not an ad hominem. Its only an ad hominem if someone makes an unrelated personal attack against the source of an argument. The original argument was that these documents are suggestive of facebook corporate culture/evilness. A counter argument that the documents are cherry-picked by someone with a grudge (which may or may not be true) directly responds to the original claim that you can gleam a fair picture of facebook based on these documents. Thus it is not an ad hominem (that's not to say that it is necessarily a good argument)
- edmundsauto 7y ago
  I think the previous posters point is to consider what is contained in all the other documents created by facebook that weren't leaked. Potentially impossible in practice, but worth considering what could be in those documents that would change your position.