4 ms·

Co-creation isn’t a bug. It’s a feature. Astrology has stuck around for 2,500 years is because it is a robust language developed over millennia to capture the

Co-creation isn’t a bug. It’s a feature. Astrology has stuck around for 2,500 years is because it is a robust language developed over millennia to capture the complexity of being human. Your ego, your communication style, your love language, your instinct for action – each have their own, often contradictory, flavor. You can use this language to walk into a room and say, ’I’m going through my Saturn return. I’m reckoning with restrictions and limits and boundaries right now.” It’s humanizing, and tender. You can start a conversation, “Why did we get into that insane fight and why did you shut down? Is it because you’re a Capricorn Mars?” People don’t use astrology to predict the future. People use it to explain and create the present. BTW ---> We’re probably who she’s subtweeting. And we’re hiring. https://www.costarastrology.com/jobs https://www.costarastrology.com/jobs

warp 7y ago
If you "really need engineers", why hire only locally?
- banuguler 7y ago
  In general, we think the point of tech is to get off tech and be together IRL. Same thing when we're thinking about features to build. Want to walk the walk, etc.
malvosenior 7y ago
> You can use this language to walk into a room and say, ’I’m going through my Saturn return. I’m reckoning with restrictions and limits and boundaries right now.” I wouldn't recommend doing that as anyone who is logic and science based will immediately cease to take you seriously. We have so much more information on how the universe works now than we did 2,500 years ago and there's nothing to suggest that astrology is anything other completely false. People used to believe that leeches could bleed out toxins, thankfully we've evolved our knowledge models since then. Let's not go back.
- banuguler 7y ago
  "Saturn return" is the technical term for when Saturn returns to the same place in the sky that it was when you were born. Very curiously, this happens on a regular basis – just about every 30 years.
  - malvosenior 7y ago
    Yes, but that has nothing to do with human behavior.
    - Pete_D 7y ago
      Arguably it does - if someone tells me they are going through their Saturn return, I know two things about them (going off banuguler's information): - they are around 30 years old - they feel like they are dealing with restrictions and limits in their life Together I can make an informed guess that they're more likely to be worried about, say, starting a family, or their career options narrowing, than a randomly selected member of the population would be. Similarly, if someone tells me that shark attacks are up lately, I will predict that ice cream sales are also up (via the proxy of beach attendance). You may find tricks like this unimpressive, but it's a step above "nothing to do with".
- mathgenius 7y ago
  > anyone who is logic and science based will immediately cease ... Why be so rigid ? I am a scientist. I would be happy to listen to someone talk about their "saturn return", etc. etc. if that helps them convey meaning.
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
  - oblio 7y ago
    True, but this is more of a socializing thing, isn't it? If someone I care at least a bit about says something dumb, I listen to them to figure out if they have a real concern they're not expressing correctly.
CydeWeys 7y ago
How is "I'm going through my Saturn return. I’m reckoning with restrictions and limits and boundaries right now." humanizing and tender? It doesn't read that way to me. It's off-putting and impersonal to start talking about random unrelated planets instead of the actual human issues that someone is dealing with.
YeGoblynQueenne 7y ago
I grew up with a whole bunch of books on astrology (among other nuage subjects) that belonged to my mother and I used to be quite fluent in this "language" you talk about, as a kid. My impression, already since grade school, was that astrology did its level best to flatter you and stroke your ego, even when it supposedly discussed your "negative" traits which were always presented as if they were actually positive. For instance, I remember Scorpio's vicious vindictiveness (my mother is a Scorpio) and bloody-mindedness first noted as being the Scorpio's downfall (from a soaring eagle to a crawling lizard) but then discussed as a strength, a powerful weapon at the Scorpio's disposal that everyone should take care not to provoke. Far from making it sound like vindictiveness is a bad thing, it made Scorpio sound like a total badass (well, my mother is badass so I was kind of convinced). The other thing I noticed was that it didn't matter if you were a Scorpio, or a Leo, or a Virgo, or a Libra. I could open any random page on one of my mother's astrology books, discussing any one of the 12 signs and find a passage that I felt described me absolutely. That is, I noticed that the descriptions of the signs' personalities had absolutely no predictive value whatsoever. Anyone could have any of the traits that were described as being characteristic of their sign, or their ascendant, but also any of the traits ascribed to every other sign. So at least in the books that I've read (and I apologise that I don't remember their titles but that was a while ago) astrology was basically a well-thought out system for flattering people and filling them with empty platitudes.
juped 7y ago
Astrology is one of the three Hermetic sciences. Hermeticism won - today, we live in the Hermetic world of Newton where natural laws hold universally, certum et verissimum. In winning, it shed its skin and rebranded, leaving its earlier trappings behind to be worn by ideological losers. If your astrology company isn't hiring Hermetic sorcerers, but rather new-age writers and "engineers", it's more or less SEO blog spam.

warp 7y ago

If you "really need engineers", why hire only locally?

banuguler 7y ago
In general, we think the point of tech is to get off tech and be together IRL. Same thing when we're thinking about features to build. Want to walk the walk, etc.

malvosenior 7y ago

> You can use this language to walk into a room and say, ’I’m going through my Saturn return. I’m reckoning with restrictions and limits and boundaries right now.” I wouldn't recommend doing that as anyone who is logic and science based will immediately cease to take you seriously. We have so much more information on how the universe works now than we did 2,500 years ago and there's nothing to suggest that astrology is anything other completely false. People used to believe that leeches could bleed out toxins, thankfully we've evolved our knowledge models since then. Let's not go back.

banuguler 7y ago
"Saturn return" is the technical term for when Saturn returns to the same place in the sky that it was when you were born. Very curiously, this happens on a regular basis – just about every 30 years.
- malvosenior 7y ago
  Yes, but that has nothing to do with human behavior.
  - Pete_D 7y ago
    Arguably it does - if someone tells me they are going through their Saturn return, I know two things about them (going off banuguler's information): - they are around 30 years old - they feel like they are dealing with restrictions and limits in their life Together I can make an informed guess that they're more likely to be worried about, say, starting a family, or their career options narrowing, than a randomly selected member of the population would be. Similarly, if someone tells me that shark attacks are up lately, I will predict that ice cream sales are also up (via the proxy of beach attendance). You may find tricks like this unimpressive, but it's a step above "nothing to do with".
mathgenius 7y ago
> anyone who is logic and science based will immediately cease ... Why be so rigid ? I am a scientist. I would be happy to listen to someone talk about their "saturn return", etc. etc. if that helps them convey meaning.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- oblio 7y ago
  True, but this is more of a socializing thing, isn't it? If someone I care at least a bit about says something dumb, I listen to them to figure out if they have a real concern they're not expressing correctly.

CydeWeys 7y ago

How is "I'm going through my Saturn return. I’m reckoning with restrictions and limits and boundaries right now." humanizing and tender? It doesn't read that way to me. It's off-putting and impersonal to start talking about random unrelated planets instead of the actual human issues that someone is dealing with.

YeGoblynQueenne 7y ago

I grew up with a whole bunch of books on astrology (among other nuage subjects) that belonged to my mother and I used to be quite fluent in this "language" you talk about, as a kid. My impression, already since grade school, was that astrology did its level best to flatter you and stroke your ego, even when it supposedly discussed your "negative" traits which were always presented as if they were actually positive. For instance, I remember Scorpio's vicious vindictiveness (my mother is a Scorpio) and bloody-mindedness first noted as being the Scorpio's downfall (from a soaring eagle to a crawling lizard) but then discussed as a strength, a powerful weapon at the Scorpio's disposal that everyone should take care not to provoke. Far from making it sound like vindictiveness is a bad thing, it made Scorpio sound like a total badass (well, my mother is badass so I was kind of convinced). The other thing I noticed was that it didn't matter if you were a Scorpio, or a Leo, or a Virgo, or a Libra. I could open any random page on one of my mother's astrology books, discussing any one of the 12 signs and find a passage that I felt described me absolutely. That is, I noticed that the descriptions of the signs' personalities had absolutely no predictive value whatsoever. Anyone could have any of the traits that were described as being characteristic of their sign, or their ascendant, but also any of the traits ascribed to every other sign. So at least in the books that I've read (and I apologise that I don't remember their titles but that was a while ago) astrology was basically a well-thought out system for flattering people and filling them with empty platitudes.

juped 7y ago

Astrology is one of the three Hermetic sciences. Hermeticism won - today, we live in the Hermetic world of Newton where natural laws hold universally, certum et verissimum. In winning, it shed its skin and rebranded, leaving its earlier trappings behind to be worn by ideological losers. If your astrology company isn't hiring Hermetic sorcerers, but rather new-age writers and "engineers", it's more or less SEO blog spam.