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And yet somehow China is beating everyone else https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-climatechange-carbon/china-meets-2020-carbon-target-ahead-of-schedule-xi

by lucian1900 7y ago

And yet somehow China is beating everyone else https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-climatechange-carbon/china-meets-2020-carbon-target-ahead-of-schedule-xinhua-idUSKBN1H312U https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-climatechange-carbo... Funny how even a partially planned economy is more effective.

koheripbal 7y ago
Everyone's emissions are down due to manufacturing slowdowns globally. If you're willing to select a narrow set of data points as this article does, then you can draw any conclusion you want.
sproketboy 7y ago
They're ahead of schedule but The U.S. Leads All Countries In Reducing Carbon Emissions https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2017/10/24/yes-the-u-s-leads-all-countries-in-reducing-carbon-emissions/#13912bb53535 https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2017/10/24/yes-the-u-s-...
jngreenlee 7y ago
Not true, It's slippery language (and unauditable Chinese press statements). So if you can spot it! "China, the world’s biggest energy consumer, cut its 2005 carbon intensity level, or the amount of climate-warming carbon dioxide it produces per unit of economic growth, by 46 percent in 2017, Xie told a forum in Shanghai"
swebs 7y ago
Don't be tricked by misleading measurement conditions. Their total carbon emissions have been increasing at an explosive rate. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/World_fossil_carbon_dioxide_emissions_six_top_countries_and_confederations.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/World_fo...
- mtone 7y ago
  Of course they've been going up, but per capita they might reach equilibrium before NA levels. Europe is doing quite well on that chart. [0] https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=en_atm_co2e_pc&idim=country:CHN:RUS:IRN&hl=en&dl=en#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=en_atm_co2e_pc&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:CHN&idim=region:EAS:ECS:LCN:MEA:NAC:SAS:SSF&ifdim=region&tdim=true&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&...
  - swebs 7y ago
    The glaciers don't care about per-capita.

koheripbal 7y ago

Everyone's emissions are down due to manufacturing slowdowns globally. If you're willing to select a narrow set of data points as this article does, then you can draw any conclusion you want.

sproketboy 7y ago

They're ahead of schedule but The U.S. Leads All Countries In Reducing Carbon Emissions https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2017/10/24/yes-the-u-s-leads-all-countries-in-reducing-carbon-emissions/#13912bb53535 https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2017/10/24/yes-the-u-s-...

jngreenlee 7y ago

Not true, It's slippery language (and unauditable Chinese press statements). So if you can spot it! "China, the world’s biggest energy consumer, cut its 2005 carbon intensity level, or the amount of climate-warming carbon dioxide it produces per unit of economic growth, by 46 percent in 2017, Xie told a forum in Shanghai"

swebs 7y ago

Don't be tricked by misleading measurement conditions. Their total carbon emissions have been increasing at an explosive rate. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/World_fossil_carbon_dioxide_emissions_six_top_countries_and_confederations.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/World_fo...

mtone 7y ago
Of course they've been going up, but per capita they might reach equilibrium before NA levels. Europe is doing quite well on that chart. [0] https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=en_atm_co2e_pc&idim=country:CHN:RUS:IRN&hl=en&dl=en#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=en_atm_co2e_pc&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:CHN&idim=region:EAS:ECS:LCN:MEA:NAC:SAS:SSF&ifdim=region&tdim=true&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&...
- swebs 7y ago
  The glaciers don't care about per-capita.