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I understand your point but only putting trust in regulated/trained professionals sounds like a really simple answer. Friends are untrained but can provide gre

by wolco 7y ago

I understand your point but only putting trust in regulated/trained professionals sounds like a really simple answer. Friends are untrained but can provide great advice because they understand the person and can see repeated patterns. Believing in the power of planet movements can affect our lives is a religion not a science. Would you tell that person not to believe in God because based on science we can't prove they exist? Do you consider that harmful because they are basically the same thing?

pavel_lishin 7y ago
> Friends are untrained but can provide great advice because they understand the person and can see repeated patterns. But your friends see you often; an astrologer sees you when you call her up and pay up. And they only see what you tell them; your friends get to observe you and see those patterns. > Would you tell that person not to believe in God because based on science we can't prove they exist? Do you consider that harmful because they are basically the same thing? If you're having serious emotional issues, and your priest's solution is to tell you to pray harder, then yeah, I'd tell them to consider that maybe their religion isn't helping and maybe actively harming.
- lonelappde 7y ago
  My friends tell me to stop seeing my astrologer. My astrogoler tells me to stop seeing my friends. It's a hard problem.
jermaustin1 7y ago
As my wife's therapist has on her cards, "You can talk to me when you can't talk to your friends." Friends are great to talk to, but they are only as good at helping as we are at being completely open with them. There are things I'd tell my therapist LONG before I'd tell any friend. As for religion, I believe it is a mixed bag. It can be used for good and evil. But most people are religious for the community more than the religion. When I used to go to church regularly, I went to see people, talk to people, feel loved by strangers. Know that if something bad happened, people in my community would help. Do I believe in God, a god, or gods? Probably? Maybe? No? Yes? I dont know, and day to day that changes. Day to day, passing kindness to neighbors and strangers doesn't change.

by wolco 7y ago

pavel_lishin 7y ago

> Friends are untrained but can provide great advice because they understand the person and can see repeated patterns. But your friends see you often; an astrologer sees you when you call her up and pay up. And they only see what you tell them; your friends get to observe you and see those patterns. > Would you tell that person not to believe in God because based on science we can't prove they exist? Do you consider that harmful because they are basically the same thing? If you're having serious emotional issues, and your priest's solution is to tell you to pray harder, then yeah, I'd tell them to consider that maybe their religion isn't helping and maybe actively harming.

lonelappde 7y ago
My friends tell me to stop seeing my astrologer. My astrogoler tells me to stop seeing my friends. It's a hard problem.

jermaustin1 7y ago

As my wife's therapist has on her cards, "You can talk to me when you can't talk to your friends." Friends are great to talk to, but they are only as good at helping as we are at being completely open with them. There are things I'd tell my therapist LONG before I'd tell any friend. As for religion, I believe it is a mixed bag. It can be used for good and evil. But most people are religious for the community more than the religion. When I used to go to church regularly, I went to see people, talk to people, feel loved by strangers. Know that if something bad happened, people in my community would help. Do I believe in God, a god, or gods? Probably? Maybe? No? Yes? I dont know, and day to day that changes. Day to day, passing kindness to neighbors and strangers doesn't change.