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The Paris Agreement is a joke. Most countries just signed it then did what they wanted any way. Yes it would be better PR if US signed it and ignored it, but it
by rb808 7y ago
The Paris Agreement is a joke. Most countries just signed it then did what they wanted any way. Yes it would be better PR if US signed it and ignored it, but it wouldn't make any difference. https://www.nature.com/news/prove-paris-was-more-than-paper-promises-1.22378 https://www.nature.com/news/prove-paris-was-more-than-paper-...
- big_chungus 7y agoThe Paris Agreement is a joke also because there was no universal obligation it imposed. Consider, for instance, the promise China made to stop increasing emissions by 2030. You read that right, _stop increasing_. Not reduce at all. Also, that's about when economists figured emissions would naturally stop increasing in any case. A bunch of nations got together, asked everyone to send in a promise, stapled them all together, and called it a "climate accord".
- MR4D 7y agoIf the press paid attention to this, I think we'd have a chance at an agreement that did something. Instead, it's like a participation trophy for politicians.
- lucian1900 7y agoAnd yet somehow China is beating everyone else https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-climatechange-carbon/china-meets-2020-carbon-target-ahead-of-schedule-xinhua-idUSKBN1H312U https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-climatechange-carbo... Funny how even a partially planned economy is more effective.
- koheripbal 7y agoEveryone's emissions are down due to manufacturing slowdowns globally. If you're willing to select a narrow set of data points as this article does, then you can draw any conclusion you want.
- sproketboy 7y agoThey're ahead of schedule but The U.S. Leads All Countries In Reducing Carbon Emissions https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2017/10/24/yes-the-u-s-leads-all-countries-in-reducing-carbon-emissions/#13912bb53535 https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2017/10/24/yes-the-u-s-...
- jngreenlee 7y agoNot true, It's slippery language (and unauditable Chinese press statements). So if you can spot it! "China, the world’s biggest energy consumer, cut its 2005 carbon intensity level, or the amount of climate-warming carbon dioxide it produces per unit of economic growth, by 46 percent in 2017, Xie told a forum in Shanghai"
- swebs 7y agoDon't be tricked by misleading measurement conditions. Their total carbon emissions have been increasing at an explosive rate. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/World_fossil_carbon_dioxide_emissions_six_top_countries_and_confederations.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/World_fo...
- mtone 7y agoOf course they've been going up, but per capita they might reach equilibrium before NA levels. Europe is doing quite well on that chart. [0] https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=en_atm_co2e_pc&idim=country:CHN:RUS:IRN&hl=en&dl=en#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=en_atm_co2e_pc&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:CHN&idim=region:EAS:ECS:LCN:MEA:NAC:SAS:SSF&ifdim=region&tdim=true&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&...
- swebs 7y agoThe glaciers don't care about per-capita.