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the David is in Florence, Italy. But other than that, I agree with your comment.

bluedevil2k 7y ago
I think he meant this painting by a painter whose last name is David. https://az334034.vo.msecnd.net/images-7/the-consecration-of-the-emperor-napoleon-and-the-coronation-of-empress-josephine-on-december-2-1804-jacques-louis-david-1807-3bfd02de.jpg https://az334034.vo.msecnd.net/images-7/the-consecration-of-...
- ghaff 7y ago
  Pretty sure he did mean the statue given the context. Jacques-Louis David is a well-known French painter and there are works of his in the Louvre. (Some of which are monumental in size; I forget what all by him is in the Louvre.) But the average Louvre visitor probably has never heard of him--especially if they aren't French--and I doubt he's a big draw in general.
  - Iv 7y ago
    Yes I meant the statue. I had memories of seeing it there as a kid, but I think I am confusing with other sculptures.
- Jagat 7y ago
  Saw that one when we were in louvre. It is so good you have to sit there and just look at it for a while.
- JoeAltmaier 7y ago
  That looks like amazing work. But I'm at an age and temperament, where I no longer want to idolize the rich and powerful. Its just a shame that such talent went to aggrandize rich white folk with life-and-death power over millions, because of an accident of birth. Here's a powerful painting, worth a long look: https://www.topofart.com/artists/Bouguereau/art-reproduction/197/The-Broken-Pitcher.php https://www.topofart.com/artists/Bouguereau/art-reproduction...
  - cmdshiftf4 7y ago
    "Its just a shame that such talent went to aggrandize rich white folk with life-and-death power over millions, because of an accident of birth." What utter smug, condescending tripe. The painting in question was painted by Europeans, of a European - Napoleon and his wife Josephine - during the ceremony of them achieving the status of Emperor and Empress having risen through the ranks of the military and secured France's success in war. Your reductionist, post-modern Marxist and utterly racist take on it is so clique, but I can imagine you feel quite "woke" for having posted it.
    - JoeAltmaier 7y ago
      Yes its a pretty picture, I get it, I know what its about. Rich folk like them, of course, deserve worship because of what they are (better than everybody else). So what? The accident that some folk got to run roughshod over everybody else is quite an un-American viewpoint (we abolished the monarchy here). I understand if others still ascribe to these antique notions. I just have decided, after decades of being drenched in rich-and-powerful hero-worship in media and art, that I would opt out. Keep all the superior feelings to yourself, thank you. I have none. Kind of my whole point.
      - Iv 7y ago
        (not the person you respond to) I get your feeling, but that's a mistake to placate it on that painting. Napoleon probably abolished more monarchies than anyone else in Europe. The moment it captures is when Napoleon (who took power, he was not born into it) broke the supremacy of the church over European leaders. A definite moment for secularism. It does mimic the crowning ceremony of kings, but it actually breaks the supremacy of the church.
        JoeAltmaier 7y ago
        Whitewashing Napoleon, another power-hungry European absolute dictator who killed thousands, is disingenuous. He took the thrones of those he deposed. Not a hero.
Iv 7y ago
Ah? I have a vivid memory of seeing it in the Louvre but you are right, it seems to have never been there. The tricks of memory some time...
ggambetta 7y ago
Three of them, in fact. The original in Galleria della Accademia; the (marble? plaster?) copy in front of Palazzo Vecchio in Piazza della Signoria; and the (bronze?) copy in Piazzale Michelangelo. I learned this the hard way when I was going to meet a friend there. Neither of us were locals, so we wanted to choose an unambiguous place to meet. What could be more iconic than "let's meet by the David"? Hilarity ensued.

I think he meant this painting by a painter whose last name is David. https://az334034.vo.msecnd.net/images-7/the-consecration-of-the-emperor-napoleon-and-the-coronation-of-empress-josephine-on-december-2-1804-jacques-louis-david-1807-3bfd02de.jpg https://az334034.vo.msecnd.net/images-7/the-consecration-of-...

ghaff 7y ago
Pretty sure he did mean the statue given the context. Jacques-Louis David is a well-known French painter and there are works of his in the Louvre. (Some of which are monumental in size; I forget what all by him is in the Louvre.) But the average Louvre visitor probably has never heard of him--especially if they aren't French--and I doubt he's a big draw in general.
- Iv 7y ago
  Yes I meant the statue. I had memories of seeing it there as a kid, but I think I am confusing with other sculptures.
Jagat 7y ago
Saw that one when we were in louvre. It is so good you have to sit there and just look at it for a while.
JoeAltmaier 7y ago
That looks like amazing work. But I'm at an age and temperament, where I no longer want to idolize the rich and powerful. Its just a shame that such talent went to aggrandize rich white folk with life-and-death power over millions, because of an accident of birth. Here's a powerful painting, worth a long look: https://www.topofart.com/artists/Bouguereau/art-reproduction/197/The-Broken-Pitcher.php https://www.topofart.com/artists/Bouguereau/art-reproduction...
- cmdshiftf4 7y ago
  "Its just a shame that such talent went to aggrandize rich white folk with life-and-death power over millions, because of an accident of birth." What utter smug, condescending tripe. The painting in question was painted by Europeans, of a European - Napoleon and his wife Josephine - during the ceremony of them achieving the status of Emperor and Empress having risen through the ranks of the military and secured France's success in war. Your reductionist, post-modern Marxist and utterly racist take on it is so clique, but I can imagine you feel quite "woke" for having posted it.
  - JoeAltmaier 7y ago
    Yes its a pretty picture, I get it, I know what its about. Rich folk like them, of course, deserve worship because of what they are (better than everybody else). So what? The accident that some folk got to run roughshod over everybody else is quite an un-American viewpoint (we abolished the monarchy here). I understand if others still ascribe to these antique notions. I just have decided, after decades of being drenched in rich-and-powerful hero-worship in media and art, that I would opt out. Keep all the superior feelings to yourself, thank you. I have none. Kind of my whole point.
    - Iv 7y ago
      (not the person you respond to) I get your feeling, but that's a mistake to placate it on that painting. Napoleon probably abolished more monarchies than anyone else in Europe. The moment it captures is when Napoleon (who took power, he was not born into it) broke the supremacy of the church over European leaders. A definite moment for secularism. It does mimic the crowning ceremony of kings, but it actually breaks the supremacy of the church.
      - JoeAltmaier 7y ago
        Whitewashing Napoleon, another power-hungry European absolute dictator who killed thousands, is disingenuous. He took the thrones of those he deposed. Not a hero.

Iv 7y ago

Ah? I have a vivid memory of seeing it in the Louvre but you are right, it seems to have never been there. The tricks of memory some time...

ggambetta 7y ago

Three of them, in fact. The original in Galleria della Accademia; the (marble? plaster?) copy in front of Palazzo Vecchio in Piazza della Signoria; and the (bronze?) copy in Piazzale Michelangelo. I learned this the hard way when I was going to meet a friend there. Neither of us were locals, so we wanted to choose an unambiguous place to meet. What could be more iconic than "let's meet by the David"? Hilarity ensued.