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As someone that does a lot of rock climbing, no finger print readers work for me. I lose skin off my hands on a daily basis, I know not all products are made fo

As someone that does a lot of rock climbing, no finger print readers work for me. I lose skin off my hands on a daily basis, I know not all products are made for all people but if my (extremely security conscious) employer ever implements something like this Im screwed.

pwlb 7y ago
I'm rock climbing as well and I devleoped a similar biometric token for my company, my experience is that the thumb works best, as you usually don't use your thumb a lot for rock climbing compared to the other 4 fingertips
sharpercoder 7y ago
My experience is that using Argan oil right after climbing solves this for the next day. The combination of a nights rest and Argan oil almost always does the trick. The times it did not work was when I had a more serious skin injury.
foobarbecue 7y ago
You get flappers on your first pads or what? I'm also a climber and impressed with how consistently fingerprint login works on my phone no matter how much I climb.
starpilot 7y ago
Yeah I'm calling BS on this. I climb a lot, after getting back from Bishop almost all of the skin on my pads sloughed off. It peeled off in big patches. iPhone home button recognition was unaffected. Might I add that, no one cares that you climb. Really, no one. This should be told to all new climbers. You are not cool because you like to crawl up a hardened dirt wall, and go back down.
- herohamp 7y ago
  Why was this response warranted? He simply made a claim that when researched you find many people run into the same thing. Sources: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/climbing/comments/59030x/finger_print_unlocking_smartphones_and_climbing/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/climbing/comme... https://www.reddit.com/r/climbing/comments/2ah692/fingerprint_readers_and_climbing/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/climbing/comments/2ah692/fingerprin...
- dang 7y ago
  Would you please stop posting comments that break the site guidelines? We ban accounts that do that and I don't want to ban you. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- PierceJoy 7y ago
  Jesus, calm down. The parent experienced something that a ton of climbers do. Literally search any climbing forum for this topic. When I’m climbing frequently, I have to reset my iPhone Touch ID about every two weeks. When I’m not climbing, I never have to reset it.
noja 7y ago
How does your employer handle people with no hands?
- metaphor 7y ago
  In the US, by abiding by federal law which mandates reasonable accommodation; able rock climbers categorically need not apply.
  - alexeldeib 7y ago
    You'll have company-provided proof that the lack of fingerprints can be overcome with reasonable accommodation. Feels like that should be grounds to mount a (moral, at least) defense, but I'm no lawyer.
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chme 7y ago
I don't climb rocks and my finger is recognized maybe 50% to 75% from my phone and only under good circumstances. If they are wet or dirty forget it. There are probably just different recognition technologies around and my phone probably uses a very cheap one. Personally I don't really care about biometric protections, because they can very often with more or less effort be copied and faked and once they are leaked, you cannot change them easily yourself.
mrb 7y ago
Someone needs to commercialize unique artificial fingertips. Use them to register with your Yubikey or phone :)
ent 7y ago
Have you tried using your thumbprints? For me, they never fail to unlock my phone when the other fingers do. OTHO, I only climb plastic so YMMV.
CaptainMarvel 7y ago
You’d be screwed because your employer would fire you because their fingerprint reader-based security does not work for you?
- tomcooks 7y ago
  That's what nfc cards are for
  - manbash 7y ago
    You can pass the NFC card, which is different from biometric. Unless you mean implants?

pwlb 7y ago

I'm rock climbing as well and I devleoped a similar biometric token for my company, my experience is that the thumb works best, as you usually don't use your thumb a lot for rock climbing compared to the other 4 fingertips

sharpercoder 7y ago

My experience is that using Argan oil right after climbing solves this for the next day. The combination of a nights rest and Argan oil almost always does the trick. The times it did not work was when I had a more serious skin injury.

foobarbecue 7y ago

You get flappers on your first pads or what? I'm also a climber and impressed with how consistently fingerprint login works on my phone no matter how much I climb.

starpilot 7y ago

Yeah I'm calling BS on this. I climb a lot, after getting back from Bishop almost all of the skin on my pads sloughed off. It peeled off in big patches. iPhone home button recognition was unaffected. Might I add that, no one cares that you climb. Really, no one. This should be told to all new climbers. You are not cool because you like to crawl up a hardened dirt wall, and go back down.

herohamp 7y ago
Why was this response warranted? He simply made a claim that when researched you find many people run into the same thing. Sources: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/climbing/comments/59030x/finger_print_unlocking_smartphones_and_climbing/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/climbing/comme... https://www.reddit.com/r/climbing/comments/2ah692/fingerprint_readers_and_climbing/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/climbing/comments/2ah692/fingerprin...
dang 7y ago
Would you please stop posting comments that break the site guidelines? We ban accounts that do that and I don't want to ban you. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
PierceJoy 7y ago
Jesus, calm down. The parent experienced something that a ton of climbers do. Literally search any climbing forum for this topic. When I’m climbing frequently, I have to reset my iPhone Touch ID about every two weeks. When I’m not climbing, I never have to reset it.

noja 7y ago

How does your employer handle people with no hands?

metaphor 7y ago
In the US, by abiding by federal law which mandates reasonable accommodation; able rock climbers categorically need not apply.
- alexeldeib 7y ago
  You'll have company-provided proof that the lack of fingerprints can be overcome with reasonable accommodation. Feels like that should be grounds to mount a (moral, at least) defense, but I'm no lawyer.
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]

chme 7y ago

I don't climb rocks and my finger is recognized maybe 50% to 75% from my phone and only under good circumstances. If they are wet or dirty forget it. There are probably just different recognition technologies around and my phone probably uses a very cheap one. Personally I don't really care about biometric protections, because they can very often with more or less effort be copied and faked and once they are leaked, you cannot change them easily yourself.

mrb 7y ago

Someone needs to commercialize unique artificial fingertips. Use them to register with your Yubikey or phone :)

ent 7y ago

Have you tried using your thumbprints? For me, they never fail to unlock my phone when the other fingers do. OTHO, I only climb plastic so YMMV.

CaptainMarvel 7y ago

You’d be screwed because your employer would fire you because their fingerprint reader-based security does not work for you?

tomcooks 7y ago
That's what nfc cards are for
- manbash 7y ago
  You can pass the NFC card, which is different from biometric. Unless you mean implants?