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Its the way of the world. The Palestinians were weak so they got bullied around and Israel was born. They remained weak and Israel continues. This is the way o

Its the way of the world. The Palestinians were weak so they got bullied around and Israel was born. They remained weak and Israel continues. This is the way of the world. Strong eat the weak. Whether its monopolizing tech companies or nation states. They can abuse their power. Once established, they can then rewrite history. Look how now Microsoft has become such a champion for open-source. Tomorrow the champion of privacy will be Facebook. Tomorrow the champion for human rights will be the Saudis and the Israelis.

malandrew 7y ago
> Look how now Microsoft has become such a champion for open-source. to be fair, they didn't just doctor history, they actually changed their ways.
- justinclift 7y ago
  Let me know when telemetry in Windows can meaningfully be turned off fully, and permanently. Everything else they've done is pretty much PR management.
  - dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
    I don't understand why you're being downvoted. Yes, there are valid technical reasons to use telemetry, but the tricks Microsoft is playing to get these data against the wishes of their users can't be considered fair.
    - mixmastamyk 7y ago
      It’s part of the campaign.
- Jedi72 7y ago
  Am I out of the loop, what have Microsoft done to support open-source? Made linux containers easy to use on Azure? Wrote a code editor so that they extend and extinguish developer mindshare and get them onto Azure? Im being serious, what have MS actually done to claim they have supported open-source (and of course, open-source != free software)
  - mixmastamyk 7y ago
    They’ve stopped being an arch enemy and twirling their mustache so often.
  - vezycash 7y ago
    They are one of the largest contributors to linux, donate $500k annually to Linux foundation (since 2016. Google joined in 2018), VS code, .net is open source to large degree, typescript is open source. Here's a list of their open source projects. https://opensource.microsoft.com/?sort=Stars&keyword=&tag= https://opensource.microsoft.com/?sort=Stars&keyword=&tag= (Microsoft may be the world's largest open source contributor https://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-may-be-the-worlds-largest-open-source-contributor-but-developers-dont-yet-care https://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-may-be-the-wo...) (Microsoft becomes 5th largest contributor to linux core https://www.ukfast.co.uk/microsoft-news/impressive-microsoft-contribution-to-linux-development.html https://www.ukfast.co.uk/microsoft-news/impressive-microsoft...)
    - justinclift 7y ago
      Having projects as OSS is just plain sensible as in the majority of cases it's a better development approach then the proprietary ones. That MS has made some projects OSS is just recognition they needed to up their game or be left behind. It in no way means they're suddenly "good guys" (etc). When their actions are those of "good guys", then perhaps they could be start to be viewed as such.
      - vezycash 7y ago
        >It in no way means they're suddenly "good guys" (etc). Irrelevant to the topic at hand >Am I out of the loop, what have Microsoft done to support open-source? That's what I responded to.
        justinclift 7y ago
        No worries. :)
democracy 7y ago
>> Tomorrow the champion for human rights will be the Saudis I thought you were serious if not for the closing line... :)
- DSingularity 7y ago
  I am serious but obviously sarcastic. Most the world is oblivious to the savagery of the Saudi war against Yemen. One day the Saudis will champion some liberal cause and hire some PR campaign to make sure its in headline news and placed smack middle of some Netflix movie. Poof!
iknowalot 7y ago
This is how garbage spreads, without wisdom and foresight. Israel could've been a much better product of creative thinking. Now it's an apartheid state with the indigenous kept in an open air prison that is regularly used for international weapons testing.... The unwise think in very short terms...and it comes back to bite them shortly after.

malandrew 7y ago

> Look how now Microsoft has become such a champion for open-source. to be fair, they didn't just doctor history, they actually changed their ways.

justinclift 7y ago
Let me know when telemetry in Windows can meaningfully be turned off fully, and permanently. Everything else they've done is pretty much PR management.
- dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
  I don't understand why you're being downvoted. Yes, there are valid technical reasons to use telemetry, but the tricks Microsoft is playing to get these data against the wishes of their users can't be considered fair.
  - mixmastamyk 7y ago
    It’s part of the campaign.
Jedi72 7y ago
Am I out of the loop, what have Microsoft done to support open-source? Made linux containers easy to use on Azure? Wrote a code editor so that they extend and extinguish developer mindshare and get them onto Azure? Im being serious, what have MS actually done to claim they have supported open-source (and of course, open-source != free software)
- mixmastamyk 7y ago
  They’ve stopped being an arch enemy and twirling their mustache so often.
- vezycash 7y ago
  They are one of the largest contributors to linux, donate $500k annually to Linux foundation (since 2016. Google joined in 2018), VS code, .net is open source to large degree, typescript is open source. Here's a list of their open source projects. https://opensource.microsoft.com/?sort=Stars&keyword=&tag= https://opensource.microsoft.com/?sort=Stars&keyword=&tag= (Microsoft may be the world's largest open source contributor https://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-may-be-the-worlds-largest-open-source-contributor-but-developers-dont-yet-care https://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-may-be-the-wo...) (Microsoft becomes 5th largest contributor to linux core https://www.ukfast.co.uk/microsoft-news/impressive-microsoft-contribution-to-linux-development.html https://www.ukfast.co.uk/microsoft-news/impressive-microsoft...)
  - justinclift 7y ago
    Having projects as OSS is just plain sensible as in the majority of cases it's a better development approach then the proprietary ones. That MS has made some projects OSS is just recognition they needed to up their game or be left behind. It in no way means they're suddenly "good guys" (etc). When their actions are those of "good guys", then perhaps they could be start to be viewed as such.
    - vezycash 7y ago
      >It in no way means they're suddenly "good guys" (etc). Irrelevant to the topic at hand >Am I out of the loop, what have Microsoft done to support open-source? That's what I responded to.
      - justinclift 7y ago
        No worries. :)

democracy 7y ago

>> Tomorrow the champion for human rights will be the Saudis I thought you were serious if not for the closing line... :)

DSingularity 7y ago
I am serious but obviously sarcastic. Most the world is oblivious to the savagery of the Saudi war against Yemen. One day the Saudis will champion some liberal cause and hire some PR campaign to make sure its in headline news and placed smack middle of some Netflix movie. Poof!

iknowalot 7y ago

This is how garbage spreads, without wisdom and foresight. Israel could've been a much better product of creative thinking. Now it's an apartheid state with the indigenous kept in an open air prison that is regularly used for international weapons testing.... The unwise think in very short terms...and it comes back to bite them shortly after.