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Like anything in life, you have to adapt or die, the city are build for car, you either adapt to it or at worse case die. Why are city build for car ? Apparent

by matz1 7y ago

Like anything in life, you have to adapt or die, the city are build for car, you either adapt to it or at worse case die. Why are city build for car ? Apparently enough people/entity whatever want it to be that way. Good for you to, to fight for you cause, which is what you should be doing. If it were me, If I care enough I would petition to have more road and less sidewalks. No, I do not expect the situation would be ideal for everyone. You can't never have a situation where everyone is happy, that is simply impossible.

romwell 7y ago
Well, you correctly describe the current state of affairs. Certainly building cities for cars benefited the people who built them, as well as the automobile manufacturers. And while we can't make everyone "happy", we definitely can definitely improve on things like, dunno, needlessly killing people. OK, I guess trying to spin "hey, maybe we could care just a tiny bit" about other people isn't going to work here, so how about this: The less people drive, the better it is for the drivers. Where I live, the 23-minute drive on Hwy 101 becomes up to a 1hr45m drive in the morning hours. Making the area pedestrian- and transit-friendly would likely cut down the peak commute time by half, saving car commuters a spare hour or two each day, judging by the experience in LA[1]. PS: "Adapt or die" is a shitty attitude to have, my friend. A good friend of mine and I were living on Long Island, NY. We were students, and couldn't afford to have a car. Insurance in NY is hella expensive. I moved out to grad school in TX, and "adapted": got a car and a license. It was cheap to live there, I could afford it. My friend didn't get the chance. He couldn't afford a car on a grad student stipend in NY. One day, he got hit by a car and died. I hold the Suffolk County - and people who say words like "adapt or die" regarding pedestrian deaths - personally responsible for the death of my friend, a PhD student who could have been working on self-driving cars now. You must be young to hold this attitude, and I sincerely hope you change it. There's always a bigger fish. "Adapt or die" is great when it doesn't concern you. [1]https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2013/04/public-transportation-does-relieve-traffic-congestion-just-not-everywhere/5149/ https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2013/04/public-transp...
- matz1 7y ago
  >"hey, maybe we could care just a tiny bit" Likewise, maybe you should care just a tiny bit about people who support car then. You easily dismiss their concern, deemed it as unimportant. Regardless, I still acknowledge your position, its just fact of life that every issue has some supporter and hatters. There are few solution for congestion, build more road, elevated road, underground road, tunnel. Elon Musk has interesting idea with his boring company. "Adapt or die" is not shitty attitude its the reality of life. >A good friend of mine and I were living on Long Island, NY. We were students, and couldn't afford to have a car. Insurance in NY is hella expensive For some people, its just mean you have to work harder/smarter to find the way to get it. Whatever solution I purpose, you will just counter it with, what about this other group of people, an so on. No I don't have all the solution for all kind people, no one is, at some point these people have to figure out themselves. Yes at the very worse case, if you can't adapt you die, thats the reality of life. Similarly, there are tons of other situation where current environment is not what I prefer, nonetheless I have to adapt or I'll die.

by matz1 7y ago

romwell 7y ago

Well, you correctly describe the current state of affairs. Certainly building cities for cars benefited the people who built them, as well as the automobile manufacturers. And while we can't make everyone "happy", we definitely can definitely improve on things like, dunno, needlessly killing people. OK, I guess trying to spin "hey, maybe we could care just a tiny bit" about other people isn't going to work here, so how about this: The less people drive, the better it is for the drivers. Where I live, the 23-minute drive on Hwy 101 becomes up to a 1hr45m drive in the morning hours. Making the area pedestrian- and transit-friendly would likely cut down the peak commute time by half, saving car commuters a spare hour or two each day, judging by the experience in LA[1]. PS: "Adapt or die" is a shitty attitude to have, my friend. A good friend of mine and I were living on Long Island, NY. We were students, and couldn't afford to have a car. Insurance in NY is hella expensive. I moved out to grad school in TX, and "adapted": got a car and a license. It was cheap to live there, I could afford it. My friend didn't get the chance. He couldn't afford a car on a grad student stipend in NY. One day, he got hit by a car and died. I hold the Suffolk County - and people who say words like "adapt or die" regarding pedestrian deaths - personally responsible for the death of my friend, a PhD student who could have been working on self-driving cars now. You must be young to hold this attitude, and I sincerely hope you change it. There's always a bigger fish. "Adapt or die" is great when it doesn't concern you. [1]https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2013/04/public-transportation-does-relieve-traffic-congestion-just-not-everywhere/5149/ https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2013/04/public-transp...

matz1 7y ago
>"hey, maybe we could care just a tiny bit" Likewise, maybe you should care just a tiny bit about people who support car then. You easily dismiss their concern, deemed it as unimportant. Regardless, I still acknowledge your position, its just fact of life that every issue has some supporter and hatters. There are few solution for congestion, build more road, elevated road, underground road, tunnel. Elon Musk has interesting idea with his boring company. "Adapt or die" is not shitty attitude its the reality of life. >A good friend of mine and I were living on Long Island, NY. We were students, and couldn't afford to have a car. Insurance in NY is hella expensive For some people, its just mean you have to work harder/smarter to find the way to get it. Whatever solution I purpose, you will just counter it with, what about this other group of people, an so on. No I don't have all the solution for all kind people, no one is, at some point these people have to figure out themselves. Yes at the very worse case, if you can't adapt you die, thats the reality of life. Similarly, there are tons of other situation where current environment is not what I prefer, nonetheless I have to adapt or I'll die.