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there is a group of conspiracy theories around the idea the all those "scientific occultism" and "psychological warfare" ventures continued in the USA among pro

there is a group of conspiracy theories around the idea the all those "scientific occultism" and "psychological warfare" ventures continued in the USA among programs such as MKULTRA and others (say the theories) not yet declassified because they were more successful. I suppose you could categorize these close to "Hitler retired in Argentina" and similar "Nazism went on" conspiracies.

galaxyLogic 7y ago
To quote a famous movie: The biggest stunt Devil ever played on us was he made us believe he doesn't exist. "Nazism" is still going on. Nazism is basically the same thing as totalitarianism in general. It never went away in many parts of the world. There are even Neo-Nazis in the USA.
- aksss 7y ago
  The Nazi party implemented a totalitarian form of government. Totalitarianism predated Nazis and is still a common form of government around the world. Classic case of "A is an example of B, but not all B are A". E.g. calling Stalin a Nazi would be inaccurate. He fought Nazis, but was still a totalitarian of the highest order, arguably with a more heinous legacy (if measured in body count, geographic impact, duration of influence). Assad is a current totalitarian, along with many regimes in Africa. Describing these as regimes as Nazis would be a very inarticulate description, even though I'd get your point ("he bad").
  - galaxyLogic 7y ago
    I think the differences between different totalitarian governments is of little significance. What is important is that they all want to eradicate democratic processes as much as possible. So whether you call them "Fascists" (in Italy) or "Nazis" in Germany or "Stalinist" (in Soviet Union) is fine, but really they all are more or less the same, authoritarian, totalitarian, anti-democratic. That is why Neo-Nazis call themselves Neo-Nazis. They want to be LIKE NAZIS.
- cbnotfromthere 7y ago
  There are even Neo-Nazis in the USA True, they are called Antifa.

galaxyLogic 7y ago

To quote a famous movie: The biggest stunt Devil ever played on us was he made us believe he doesn't exist. "Nazism" is still going on. Nazism is basically the same thing as totalitarianism in general. It never went away in many parts of the world. There are even Neo-Nazis in the USA.

aksss 7y ago
The Nazi party implemented a totalitarian form of government. Totalitarianism predated Nazis and is still a common form of government around the world. Classic case of "A is an example of B, but not all B are A". E.g. calling Stalin a Nazi would be inaccurate. He fought Nazis, but was still a totalitarian of the highest order, arguably with a more heinous legacy (if measured in body count, geographic impact, duration of influence). Assad is a current totalitarian, along with many regimes in Africa. Describing these as regimes as Nazis would be a very inarticulate description, even though I'd get your point ("he bad").
- galaxyLogic 7y ago
  I think the differences between different totalitarian governments is of little significance. What is important is that they all want to eradicate democratic processes as much as possible. So whether you call them "Fascists" (in Italy) or "Nazis" in Germany or "Stalinist" (in Soviet Union) is fine, but really they all are more or less the same, authoritarian, totalitarian, anti-democratic. That is why Neo-Nazis call themselves Neo-Nazis. They want to be LIKE NAZIS.
cbnotfromthere 7y ago
There are even Neo-Nazis in the USA True, they are called Antifa.