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It's not that simple > does this listing have a stove Guest: Well yes but it doesn't work. Or, well yes but the flame shut off after 2 minutes AirBnB: Sucks
by greggman2 7y ago
It's not that simple
> does this listing have a stove
Guest: Well yes but it doesn't work. Or, well yes but the flame shut off after 2 minutes
AirBnB: Sucks to be you but it has a stove so not a lie
> does this listing have wifi
Well yes but they say it's only got 1meg data so it will run out in probably 2 days and we booked the place for a month.
AirBnb: Sucks to be you but it has wifi so not a lie
> does this listing have 3 bedrooms
Well, it's got 3 rooms, a bedroom, a living room with a bed in it and a kitchen with a bed in it.
AirBnB: Bed in room = bedroom so yes it's got 3 bedrooms. Sucks to be you but not a lie
etc... The second 2 are actual AirBnB experiences.
- RHSeeger 7y agoI'm be curious if you could have pushed back on the bedrooms one. The term "bedroom" has a legal definition in many places (ex, must have door and closed).
- duxup 7y agoIt might but I'm not sure Airbnb has a definition.
- libria 7y agoDoor + closet + fire-escapable window are a few reqs around here.
- Teever 7y agoHow does that definition work on the 30th storey of a condo building?
- dragonwriter 7y agoFire escapes are a thing, and required in tall buildings, so it works exactly as stated.
- dickeytk 7y agoFire escapes are definitely not "required". You rarely ever even see them out of NYC and within NYC they've been banned since 1968.
- bobthepanda 7y agoIt‘s worth noting they were banned because they weren‘t actually safer. Cramped apartment dwellers would use fire escapes as an extension of their square footage, blocking paths to safety. And they were so rarely used and tested that fire escapes becoming overloaded and detaching from the building was not uncommon.
- ars 7y agoThe closet part is not actually true, it's a commonly believed myth. There may be a few rare localities that require it, but it's not normally required. Rather the definition requires a certain size of the room.
- Terretta 7y agoIn a certain US jurisdiction I have a room with a bed in it I can call a “nanny’s room” but I cannot call a bedroom on a real estate listing, as the closet for that room is through another door in a sort of hall. In Europe though, where armoires are a thing, and I actually can’t remember living in any home that had a closet in any room with a bed, I don’t see closet being in the definition.
- ars 7y ago"The International Building Code, which is used in 49 states and Washington D.C., has no requirements for a bedroom to have a closet." https://buyersask.com/edu/code/does-a-bedroom-require-a-closet-by-code/ https://buyersask.com/edu/code/does-a-bedroom-require-a-clos... I keep seeing rumors that there are localities that require a closet, but no one ever actually names them. It may be a persistent rumor in your locality as well.
- RHSeeger 7y agoAccording to bobvila.com, it's a difference between safety codes and assessing the property. > Fittingly, property assessors will follow the same bedroom definition when determining the number of bedrooms in a given home—that is, it must have a door, a closet, and an egress window. It is in the interest of homeowners, sellers, and buyers to know the subtle bedroom definition differences between the safety/builder perspective and the real estate/home value perspective, and to know one’s state and local guidelines for determining what can and cannot be considered a bedroom. https://www.bobvila.com/articles/406-what-makes-a-room-a-bedroom/ https://www.bobvila.com/articles/406-what-makes-a-room-a-bed...
- rockinghigh 7y ago
- RustyBucket 7y agoIn many places (e.g. in Europe) there is no standard definition of bedroom at all. Rather generic room, which is space surrounded by walls.
- hndamien 7y agoAirBnB was kind of built on the premise of a random air bed anywhere. So I think they should actually get a pass on this. The rest not so much.
- ogre_codes 7y agoNot at all. While you can rent an air-mattress on the living room floor, it should be advertised as such. When a listing is for an apartment with 2 bedrooms and an air mattress on the living room floor, listing it as "3 bedrooms" is bullshit and not even legal.
- hndamien 7y agoIt should be disclosed in the listing, but in search filters it is fine. They could probably find a way to disclose it better is search filters too with a bit of design.
- ttsda 7y agoEurope is not all the same. A bedroom is well defined in Portugal.
- dickeytk 7y agoI would be very surprised if that was the case. It's certainly not in the US or UK: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/68/part/X http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/68/part/X in the US it"s that it needs a window + closet I think.
- goodcanadian 7y agoDepends on the state, I'm sure, but in Hawaii it was a minimum of 70 sq ft with a minimum width (smallest dimension) (8ft?). In Canada (and I suspect the US), there has to be a window large enough for emergency egress.
- x0x0 7y agoWe arrived for a conference to an AirBnB and discovered when arriving at 10pm that it was likely illegal. ie got warnings about making noise and multiple people coming in simultaneously with suitcases, etc. But your choices are either: 1 - pick a fight at 10pm, probably fuck around with AirBnB's shit customer support, maybe if lucky get to sleep at an alternate place by 1 or 2 am, then feel like utter garbage for the next 3 days; 2 - deal (with the implied: no more airbnb on business trips...)