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By creating a profile and uploading your DNA -- you're giving consent for your DNA to be indexed. Whether or not you should be requiring the consent of all peo

By creating a profile and uploading your DNA -- you're giving consent for your DNA to be indexed. Whether or not you should be requiring the consent of all people with similar DNA is the real question -- but given Americans' obsession with individual rights I don't see it changing. In their eyes, why shouldn't they be permitted to upload and share their own DNA?

shadowgovt 7y ago
Yeah, that's the tricky thing. Individual ownership of information as a principle doesn't cover the set of all things people care about when information is shared between individuals (or infer-able about another individual based on information of a sharing party).
LadyCailin 7y ago
I know it was a rhetorical question, but because of negative externalities. Same reason I can’t dump pollution in the river that runs through my property, because that polluted your property downstream.
- duahncjak 7y ago
  The only externality demonstrated is catching the Golden State Killer.
- ianai 7y ago
  That seems like a much better legal analogy. If anything, this should probably be considered search and seizure without a warrant. That would make the evidence inadmissible in court. Or we carve out searching DNA databases as outside of that amendment. That actually makes more sense to me as even your dna is no longer yours once it’s in the public domain on a hairbrush at the dumpster. IANAL.
mygo 7y ago
Most of your DNA is not your own. So this isn’t about sharing a selfie, this is about sharing a group photo, where other people are partly out of frame, but you can still make out who they are. And if we stitch together enough photos, we can make out a lot of people, people who never even took a photo. Although, some would be sharp to point out that in the case of a selfie most of your facial features are also not your own. So it’s mostly a question of where we draw the line as to what is personal and what is shared. But in the case of a murder, if we had an actual selfie of the killer at the scene, we would be able to solve the case fairly quickly using standard investigative methods.
- paxys 7y ago
  It's exactly like not being allowed to share your selfie because you look too much like your mom or sister.
  - mygo 7y ago
    I said that in my second paragraph. I also said it’s a question of where we draw the line as to what is personal and what is shared. Do we consider a selfie personal or shared? In 2019, we consider it personal.

shadowgovt 7y ago

Yeah, that's the tricky thing. Individual ownership of information as a principle doesn't cover the set of all things people care about when information is shared between individuals (or infer-able about another individual based on information of a sharing party).

LadyCailin 7y ago

I know it was a rhetorical question, but because of negative externalities. Same reason I can’t dump pollution in the river that runs through my property, because that polluted your property downstream.

duahncjak 7y ago
The only externality demonstrated is catching the Golden State Killer.
ianai 7y ago
That seems like a much better legal analogy. If anything, this should probably be considered search and seizure without a warrant. That would make the evidence inadmissible in court. Or we carve out searching DNA databases as outside of that amendment. That actually makes more sense to me as even your dna is no longer yours once it’s in the public domain on a hairbrush at the dumpster. IANAL.

mygo 7y ago

Most of your DNA is not your own. So this isn’t about sharing a selfie, this is about sharing a group photo, where other people are partly out of frame, but you can still make out who they are. And if we stitch together enough photos, we can make out a lot of people, people who never even took a photo. Although, some would be sharp to point out that in the case of a selfie most of your facial features are also not your own. So it’s mostly a question of where we draw the line as to what is personal and what is shared. But in the case of a murder, if we had an actual selfie of the killer at the scene, we would be able to solve the case fairly quickly using standard investigative methods.

paxys 7y ago
It's exactly like not being allowed to share your selfie because you look too much like your mom or sister.
- mygo 7y ago
  I said that in my second paragraph. I also said it’s a question of where we draw the line as to what is personal and what is shared. Do we consider a selfie personal or shared? In 2019, we consider it personal.