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The system recently passed impact tests, where it prevented a 7,200kg lorry travelling at 32kph from penetrating less than five metres. https://vimeo.com/23012

The system recently passed impact tests, where it prevented a 7,200kg lorry travelling at 32kph from penetrating less than five metres. https://vimeo.com/230126272 https://vimeo.com/230126272 As a German, I'm kinda confused how that "truck" is called a "lorry". I think in Germany it would be classified as a PKW (Personal vehicle) [0], as opposed to an LKW (Cargo vehicle) [1]. I wonder how such a barrier would fare against an LKW with heavy cargo? [0] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personenkraftwagen https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personenkraftwagen [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lastkraftwagen https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lastkraftwagen

mfontani 7y ago
> where it prevented a 7,200kg lorry travelling at 32kph from penetrating less than five metres. Doesn't "preventing from penetrating less" mean it allowed it to penetrate more?
- NullPrefix 7y ago
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- wongarsu 7y ago
  I would read it as equivalent to "forced it to penetrate at least five meters, if it penetrates at all". If I prevent you from entering a password shorter than 8 characters that means you can either not enter a password or one with at least 8 characters. This is exactly analogous.
- klyrs 7y ago
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meheleventyone 7y ago
That video says the truck weighs 2500kg so I presume the 7200kg lorry is a different thing.
- gnabgib 7y ago
  Agreed, while the video is impressive (presumably in a full install, the rack has stronger connection to the ground).. it does say 2500kg at 30mph(~50kph).. not the 7200kg at 32kph(~20mph) the article mentions
zaarn 7y ago
A 7.2ton vehicle would definitely be called a LKW (Llkw or Mlkw).
kungtotte 7y ago
In the EU a B-class driver's license allows you to drive anything up to 3500kg. Exceeding that you need at least a C1 class license (truck/lorry license) for up to 7500kg. Above that you need a full C class license. So 7200kg is definitely a truck/lorry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_driving_licence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_driving_licence
danielh 7y ago
According to the technical specifications, the security rating is: IWA 14: V/2,500(N1G)/48/90:4.5 IWA 14: V/7,200(N3C)/32/90:4.8 I interpret that like this: 2,500 kg vehicle traveling at 48 km/h penetrates 4.5 metres 7,200 kg vehicle traveling at 32 km/h penetrates 4.8 metres The article describes one part of the specification and links to a video demonstrating the other part.
- i_am_proteus 7y ago
  Yup. The pickup truck shown in the video most certainly does not mass 7,200 kg.
  - acqq 7y ago
    > The pickup truck shown in the video most certainly does not mass 7,200 kg. Exactly, as the video title is "2,500 kg @ 30 mph"
mirimir 7y ago
The link or text must be wrong. From the link: > Surface Guard Impact Test: IWA 14 - 2,500 kg @ 30 mph So it's not a "7,200kg lorry". It's a 2,500 kg extended cab pickup.
mcguire 7y ago
That looks like what an American would call a "full-size pickup", which do not weigh 7,200kg (~16,000lbs).
- throwaway0xb 7y ago
  Looks like a compact sized pickup truck, to me.
basicallydan 7y ago
As a Brit, I highly doubt that Ian sincerely believes that vehicle is a "lorry" - having said that, pickup trucks are not common in the UK so he might simply be unfamiliar with them and thought "lorry" was the accepted term.
brazzy 7y ago
According to the title of your video, it shows a different test scenario with only a 2500kg vehicle but higher speed.
OJFord 7y ago
I'd be very surprised if any British person (Americans I believe don't call any vehicle a 'lorry') would call that a lorry. Lorries are the container + cab vehicles, or fixed backs of similar shape and size. I suspect the author wrote that without seeing the footage, perhaps reading 'truck' and assuming it was a lorry being described by someone who wouldn't use the word, as above.
netsharc 7y ago
But that video is of a 2500 kg "truck", so it really is a PKW (it's under 3500kg). Something weighing 7200kg is definitely a lorry.
fanf2 7y ago
Top picture at http://notesfromthedrivingseat.blogspot.com/2011/04/vehicle-categories-explained-c1.html http://notesfromthedrivingseat.blogspot.com/2011/04/vehicle-... (discussing category C1 medium goods vehicle driving licences) is a 7.5 ton lorry. I would expect a 7.2 ton goods vehicle to be similarly more lorry than van.
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mfontani 7y ago

> where it prevented a 7,200kg lorry travelling at 32kph from penetrating less than five metres. Doesn't "preventing from penetrating less" mean it allowed it to penetrate more?

NullPrefix 7y ago
Jury of English Majors http://themetapicture.com/media/funny-court-confession-jury.jpg http://themetapicture.com/media/funny-court-confession-jury....
wongarsu 7y ago
I would read it as equivalent to "forced it to penetrate at least five meters, if it penetrates at all". If I prevent you from entering a password shorter than 8 characters that means you can either not enter a password or one with at least 8 characters. This is exactly analogous.
klyrs 7y ago
New rule in 2020: any news article that doesn't have a glaring typo, a sentence missing its subject or object, or mistaken double negative was written by AI

meheleventyone 7y ago

That video says the truck weighs 2500kg so I presume the 7200kg lorry is a different thing.

gnabgib 7y ago
Agreed, while the video is impressive (presumably in a full install, the rack has stronger connection to the ground).. it does say 2500kg at 30mph(~50kph).. not the 7200kg at 32kph(~20mph) the article mentions

zaarn 7y ago

A 7.2ton vehicle would definitely be called a LKW (Llkw or Mlkw).

kungtotte 7y ago

In the EU a B-class driver's license allows you to drive anything up to 3500kg. Exceeding that you need at least a C1 class license (truck/lorry license) for up to 7500kg. Above that you need a full C class license. So 7200kg is definitely a truck/lorry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_driving_licence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_driving_licence

danielh 7y ago

According to the technical specifications, the security rating is: IWA 14: V/2,500(N1G)/48/90:4.5 IWA 14: V/7,200(N3C)/32/90:4.8 I interpret that like this: 2,500 kg vehicle traveling at 48 km/h penetrates 4.5 metres 7,200 kg vehicle traveling at 32 km/h penetrates 4.8 metres The article describes one part of the specification and links to a video demonstrating the other part.

i_am_proteus 7y ago
Yup. The pickup truck shown in the video most certainly does not mass 7,200 kg.
- acqq 7y ago
  > The pickup truck shown in the video most certainly does not mass 7,200 kg. Exactly, as the video title is "2,500 kg @ 30 mph"

mirimir 7y ago

The link or text must be wrong. From the link: > Surface Guard Impact Test: IWA 14 - 2,500 kg @ 30 mph So it's not a "7,200kg lorry". It's a 2,500 kg extended cab pickup.

mcguire 7y ago

That looks like what an American would call a "full-size pickup", which do not weigh 7,200kg (~16,000lbs).

throwaway0xb 7y ago
Looks like a compact sized pickup truck, to me.

basicallydan 7y ago

As a Brit, I highly doubt that Ian sincerely believes that vehicle is a "lorry" - having said that, pickup trucks are not common in the UK so he might simply be unfamiliar with them and thought "lorry" was the accepted term.

brazzy 7y ago

According to the title of your video, it shows a different test scenario with only a 2500kg vehicle but higher speed.

OJFord 7y ago

I'd be very surprised if any British person (Americans I believe don't call any vehicle a 'lorry') would call that a lorry. Lorries are the container + cab vehicles, or fixed backs of similar shape and size. I suspect the author wrote that without seeing the footage, perhaps reading 'truck' and assuming it was a lorry being described by someone who wouldn't use the word, as above.

netsharc 7y ago

But that video is of a 2500 kg "truck", so it really is a PKW (it's under 3500kg). Something weighing 7200kg is definitely a lorry.

fanf2 7y ago

Top picture at http://notesfromthedrivingseat.blogspot.com/2011/04/vehicle-categories-explained-c1.html http://notesfromthedrivingseat.blogspot.com/2011/04/vehicle-... (discussing category C1 medium goods vehicle driving licences) is a 7.5 ton lorry. I would expect a 7.2 ton goods vehicle to be similarly more lorry than van.

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