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was going to make a similar comment but mention that i can see this as an advantage over google and amazon clouds. they can just offer a solid editor with their

was going to make a similar comment but mention that i can see this as an advantage over google and amazon clouds. they can just offer a solid editor with their offering now, making it easier to develop on their cloud.

t0astbread 7y ago
Couldn't Google and Amazon just do the same?
- freehunter 7y ago
  Amazon already has a competitor, Cloud 9. I’ve been constantly surprised that Amazon and Red Hat have cloud IDEs but Microsoft didn’t.
  - benologist 7y ago
    Amazon acquired Cloud9 which was for years open-source and self-hostable. Today I'm not sure what the licensing situation is, but one thing they did improve was integration with EC2 so you can specify what type of virtual machine you want.
- danielbarla 7y ago
  Given that the engine driving VS Code (Monaco [1]) is MIT licensed, I'm sure they could. There are already a fair number of cloud-IDE-providers, like StackBlitz, based on Monaco. As an additional bit of trivia, it seems that Erich Gamma (of GoF patterns fame) had a significant hand in the development of Monaco [2]. There are a number of videos where he takes Scott Hanselman through the tech, back in 2014. [1] https://github.com/Microsoft/monaco-editor https://github.com/Microsoft/monaco-editor [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Gamma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Gamma
skohan 7y ago
I'm really not a fan of the trend towards everything being remote-hosted. With things like this and also Stadia and Google Colab, it seems like the big three cloud providers are rushing us toward a world where almost everything is executed in a datacenter somewhere, and your workstation is just an interface. I think this development is especially dangerous with how Microsoft is positioned with Github. They already own where a huge percentage of open-source code is hosted. If they also come to own the defacto place that code is compiled and executed, that would give them a huge amount of power in the industry. If you're not in control of the hardware your code is compiled and executed on, someone else can place limits on what works and what doesn't. Who's to say Microsoft wouldn't use that to benefit Azure and Windows to the detriment of competitors, consumers, and developers.
- Cyph0n 7y ago
  Not sure how Stadia fits in with the rest. Modern games require more computing power than the average person has access to, so I think it makes sense to give users the option to offload that to the cloud.

t0astbread 7y ago

Couldn't Google and Amazon just do the same?

freehunter 7y ago
Amazon already has a competitor, Cloud 9. I’ve been constantly surprised that Amazon and Red Hat have cloud IDEs but Microsoft didn’t.
- benologist 7y ago
  Amazon acquired Cloud9 which was for years open-source and self-hostable. Today I'm not sure what the licensing situation is, but one thing they did improve was integration with EC2 so you can specify what type of virtual machine you want.
danielbarla 7y ago
Given that the engine driving VS Code (Monaco [1]) is MIT licensed, I'm sure they could. There are already a fair number of cloud-IDE-providers, like StackBlitz, based on Monaco. As an additional bit of trivia, it seems that Erich Gamma (of GoF patterns fame) had a significant hand in the development of Monaco [2]. There are a number of videos where he takes Scott Hanselman through the tech, back in 2014. [1] https://github.com/Microsoft/monaco-editor https://github.com/Microsoft/monaco-editor [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Gamma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Gamma

skohan 7y ago

I'm really not a fan of the trend towards everything being remote-hosted. With things like this and also Stadia and Google Colab, it seems like the big three cloud providers are rushing us toward a world where almost everything is executed in a datacenter somewhere, and your workstation is just an interface. I think this development is especially dangerous with how Microsoft is positioned with Github. They already own where a huge percentage of open-source code is hosted. If they also come to own the defacto place that code is compiled and executed, that would give them a huge amount of power in the industry. If you're not in control of the hardware your code is compiled and executed on, someone else can place limits on what works and what doesn't. Who's to say Microsoft wouldn't use that to benefit Azure and Windows to the detriment of competitors, consumers, and developers.

Cyph0n 7y ago
Not sure how Stadia fits in with the rest. Modern games require more computing power than the average person has access to, so I think it makes sense to give users the option to offload that to the cloud.