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I get frustrated with this attitude which assumes everyone is in a position to do these things. I've lost many years of my life to physical disability, and pre

I get frustrated with this attitude which assumes everyone is in a position to do these things. I've lost many years of my life to physical disability, and pretty well all of my life due to mental problems which mess up my ability to deal with people[0], and without relationships you are nothing. Reading this feels like someone telling others to "eat, drink and be merry", when those others are have no food or water - but the merry advice-giver has plenty, so what's the problem. I'd never take away from someone else what I never had and likely never will, but frankly I wish more fortunate people would stop dishing out their insensitive, thoughtless advice. [0] blah blah poor me with my sob story. Shit happens.

YeGoblynQueenne 7y ago
I don't think he's advising people to have some fun while it lasts or something like that. I think this specific quote, out of context, may be read like that, but I think the point is actually to ignore trivialities, such as "eat, drink and be merry" and instead prepare for death by focusing on what is important, like having a clear conscience and living a virtuous life. I think it's virtue that he advises we should not postpone- don't leave being a virtuous person for later, because detah may come at any moment, is my reading.
gbuk2013 7y ago
Is there something more effective that you can suggest from your experience?
antepodius 7y ago
The stoics aren't usually known for being party animals.
Razengan 7y ago
Yes, I was going to reply to the GP with: Then there are those who are eager for it to end, but have to wait for biology or fate to catch up. There should be a clean Quit button.
icebraining 7y ago
> Reading this feels I don't disbelieve you, but I suggest you try reading it again with an open mind. I think you are unconsciously imposing a stereotype onto those lines.
booleandilemma 7y ago
without relationships you are nothing A nugget of wisdom amongst all the shallow stoical comments in this thread.

YeGoblynQueenne 7y ago

I don't think he's advising people to have some fun while it lasts or something like that. I think this specific quote, out of context, may be read like that, but I think the point is actually to ignore trivialities, such as "eat, drink and be merry" and instead prepare for death by focusing on what is important, like having a clear conscience and living a virtuous life. I think it's virtue that he advises we should not postpone- don't leave being a virtuous person for later, because detah may come at any moment, is my reading.

gbuk2013 7y ago

Is there something more effective that you can suggest from your experience?

antepodius 7y ago

The stoics aren't usually known for being party animals.

Razengan 7y ago

Yes, I was going to reply to the GP with: Then there are those who are eager for it to end, but have to wait for biology or fate to catch up. There should be a clean Quit button.

icebraining 7y ago

> Reading this feels I don't disbelieve you, but I suggest you try reading it again with an open mind. I think you are unconsciously imposing a stereotype onto those lines.

booleandilemma 7y ago

without relationships you are nothing A nugget of wisdom amongst all the shallow stoical comments in this thread.