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I thought this name is a joke. But it's not April 1st. So I googled it, and it's not a joke. Broadcom bought Symantec's enterprise arm, and this is the consuner

by Maro 7y ago

I thought this name is a joke. But it's not April 1st. So I googled it, and it's not a joke. Broadcom bought Symantec's enterprise arm, and this is the consuner remnant. The name is for real.

ethbro 7y ago
> Broadcom bought Symantec's enterprise arm, and this is the consuner remnant Oof. That's going to be a gem of a product, with the enterprise team gone.
- lawnchair_larry 7y ago
  In the AV industry, the enterprise versions usually lag the consumer versions by a couple years. Their sales are driven by awards and independent ratings, so all resources go towards making sure that year’s consumer versions are optimized for the tests in time for the release. Once it’s done, they start backporting.
  - ethbro 7y ago
    My experience has been that the enterprise versions at least include some semblance of stability and performance enhancement, vs the consumer releases. But it's been awhile since I've dealt with consumer AV. Is this false now? Maybe the consumer market has gotten more capable? More competition?
    - WorldMaker 7y ago
      I have a very cynical view, but I think the consumer AV field has gotten less competitive and more scammy. With Defender/Windows AV/Windows Anti-Malware bundled into Windows since 7 (thanks to one of the dumber parts of the anti-trust litigation expiring, second perhaps only to Office not being able to directly bundle PDF export for several versions, which expired at the same time), consumer AV has work very hard to convince users to install it, and even harder to convince users to keep paying for it. Some of them are just scarier dialogs repeating what Windows Security Center shows (like they aren't even pretending to bundle their own engines anymore) and twelve ads for other security products in their "family". Consumer AV is nothing but a mafia protection racket shaking down poor people that don't really have the money to pay for it, but think they have to because of that one time their Windows XP computer got a virus when Microsoft wasn't legally allowed to have their AV product in the box and on by default because a couple of companies convinced US judges that somehow AV was a value add and not a critical platform need for an operating system. I feel sorry for someone every time I see they have consumer AV installed.

by Maro 7y ago

I thought this name is a joke. But it's not April 1st. So I googled it, and it's not a joke. Broadcom bought Symantec's enterprise arm, and this is the consuner remnant. The name is for real.

ethbro 7y ago

> Broadcom bought Symantec's enterprise arm, and this is the consuner remnant Oof. That's going to be a gem of a product, with the enterprise team gone.

lawnchair_larry 7y ago
In the AV industry, the enterprise versions usually lag the consumer versions by a couple years. Their sales are driven by awards and independent ratings, so all resources go towards making sure that year’s consumer versions are optimized for the tests in time for the release. Once it’s done, they start backporting.
- ethbro 7y ago
  My experience has been that the enterprise versions at least include some semblance of stability and performance enhancement, vs the consumer releases. But it's been awhile since I've dealt with consumer AV. Is this false now? Maybe the consumer market has gotten more capable? More competition?
  - WorldMaker 7y ago
    I have a very cynical view, but I think the consumer AV field has gotten less competitive and more scammy. With Defender/Windows AV/Windows Anti-Malware bundled into Windows since 7 (thanks to one of the dumber parts of the anti-trust litigation expiring, second perhaps only to Office not being able to directly bundle PDF export for several versions, which expired at the same time), consumer AV has work very hard to convince users to install it, and even harder to convince users to keep paying for it. Some of them are just scarier dialogs repeating what Windows Security Center shows (like they aren't even pretending to bundle their own engines anymore) and twelve ads for other security products in their "family". Consumer AV is nothing but a mafia protection racket shaking down poor people that don't really have the money to pay for it, but think they have to because of that one time their Windows XP computer got a virus when Microsoft wasn't legally allowed to have their AV product in the box and on by default because a couple of companies convinced US judges that somehow AV was a value add and not a critical platform need for an operating system. I feel sorry for someone every time I see they have consumer AV installed.