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Wow, some samples are frighteningly good. I was impressed by previous models and I don't know if I'm just lucky this time, but... wow. Can anybody who is not in
by krick 7y ago
Wow, some samples are frighteningly good. I was impressed by previous models and I don't know if I'm just lucky this time, but... wow. Can anybody who is not into climbing even tell this is all fake?
Jain Kim is an experienced climber.
In 2006, she became the first woman from Korea to climb all five 8,000 meters (24,064 ft) peaks in the Swiss alpine ski run Alps in 24 hours. In 2009, she made history again by setting the record for the fastest time to climb an 8,000 meter peak with a team from China and South Korea.
She made the first ascent of 8,832-meter K2 in China, the second highest mountain in the world, in 2009 and the third highest mountain in Europe. She also is the first female Korean to summit a world-class peak.
During her two years as a mountaineering professor at Sogang University in Korea, she established two new routes in the Yalu River area. The first of these routes is a 3,547-meter peak named K2 on Mount Long in China. Her second route is on the same mountain, called the Lomonosov Ridge, at 3,632 meters.
- bonoboTP 7y ago> Can anybody who is not into climbing even tell this is all fake? Hm, I'm pretty sure it's hard to climb five 8000 meter peaks in 24 hours :)
- krick 7y agoYeah-yeah, and "Lomonosov Ridge" is a weird name for a peak in China (and you might even happen to know the Lomonosov Ridge is underwater). Please don't be distracted by details. Maybe the author meant 24 h per peak, maybe his typing is really spurious. Is it really obvious to somebody who doesn't know anything about climbing that this is not true? Come on. What's really fascinating is how truth is mixed up with made up stuff. It's incredible, how much much real-world knowledge it has. - Jain Kim is likely a female name. - Jain Kim is likely a Korean. - K2 is in China and it is the second highest mountain in the world. - Mountaineering is somehow associated with climbing (and Jain Kim is not known for mountaineering, btw). - 8,000 meters is 24,064 ft and this is a formidable height. - climbing something in 24 h is a common pattern for a type of achievement. And more. No, I'm completely sure it would throw off plenty of people.
- mrob 7y ago>8,000 meters is 24,064 ft It's 26,247 ft.
- lifthrasiir 7y agoI'm kinda surprised that, 8,000 m = 24,064 ft implies the conversion factor of 1 ft = 30.08 cm instead of the correct 30.48 cm (note a single digit change). It... it might be capable of making a humane calculation mistake. (I think it is entirely possible, but still surprising though.)
- jpdus 7y agoK2 is not in China ;-)
- krick 7y agoIt's not important, but FYI it kinda is in China. It's right on China-Pakistan border.
- vpzom 7y agoWell, it gives two different heights and locations for a single mountain
- krick 7y agoYeah, I consider it the most serious fuck up. Yet, I'm not sure I would be really troubled even by that one if I knew nothing about that and casually came across this piece. I mean, maybe K2 is a name for 2 different peaks (it sure sound generic!), maybe something else I don't understand. Who knows!
- blensor 7y agoI think the bigger problem is that we as content consumers are more and more looking for quantity rather than quality. While reading this climbing text I was thinking that I should probably carefully check for inconsistencies but I felt I can't be bothered to. I am not sure if that is only my feeling but it feels like the content matters less and less as long as I get entertained and with the neural nets getting better and better and I getting less picky we will meet somewhere in the middle where my brain keeps scanning for buzzwords and the net optimizing for it. Which feels this way with youtube, netflix et al. as well and I think this won't become a future we really like.
- backpropaganda 7y agoGiven sibling comments, this seems relevant: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/4AHXDwcGab5PhKhHT/humans-who-are-not-concentrating-are-not-general https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/4AHXDwcGab5PhKhHT/humans-who...
- cure 7y ago> Can anybody who is not into climbing even tell this is all fake? Yeah, there are zero 8,000 meter peaks in the Swiss Alps. The Mont Blanc is the tallest at 4,808 meters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountains_of_the_Alps_above_3000_m https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountains_of_the_Alps_...). I'm not a climber :)
- krick 7y agoI just answered in a similar manner to a different comment, but still: do you understand that you are boasting how smart and well-educated you are compared to completely ignorant piece of machinery which is Neural Net? Come on people, what's up with you! Do you know how many adults don't have a slightest clue how much is 8K and where the tallest peaks are?
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- pure-awesome 7y ago> Can anybody who is not into climbing even tell this is all fake? Yes, quite clearly from the following: > She made the first ascent of 8,832-meter K2 in China, the second highest mountain in the world, in 2009 and the third highest mountain in Europe. Firstly, this sentence scans poorly. I'm guessing it should be: > In 2009, she made the first ascent of 8,832-meter K2 in China, the second highest mountain in the world, and the third highest mountain in Europe. Second, how can a mountain in China be the third highest mountain in Europe? How can the second highest mountain the world be the third highest in Europe? If I came across this in the wild, then even if I didn't think it was fake, I'd definitely think it was poorly proofread.