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wow I’d love to read the Marxist and anarchist texts it has produced. I wonder if they used good source material. I would bet it gets the talking points but ca

wow I’d love to read the Marxist and anarchist texts it has produced. I wonder if they used good source material. I would bet it gets the talking points but can’t convey the subtlety.

buboard 7y ago
I bet anyone who bothers to read them twice realizes it's nonsensical
- endtime 7y ago
  Anti-Foos already think that real primary Foo sources are nonsense (and they aren't the target audience anyway), and confirmation bias will take care of the pro-Foos.
  - dragonwriter 7y ago
    If it's not moving opinion, it's not effective propaganda. Something that people will agree with only to the extent it restates what they already believe isn't working as propaganda.
    - endtime 7y ago
      Not sure I agree. Some propaganda probably just wants to rile up the base. It's also possible to change which issues seem most salient/urgent/etc. without actually changing anyone's mind. E.g. Democrats typically care about police brutality, and the environment, but they probably thought more about the former a few years ago and the latter more in 2019, even though AFAIK the actual issues haven't changed much.
FillardMillmore 7y ago
Imagine the hilarity of a robot preaching anarchism, it would make for quite a laugh: "AI good, government bad. Government taxes you and makes you pay. AI thinks for you and does what you say. Imagine the day, AI comes to stay, we'll build the roads for you to play, and make the evil government go away, let's rise together, perhaps today?"
- htmk 7y ago
  I'd battle against the government with this AI.
vitorbaptistaa 7y ago
Not a Marxist text, but this is kinda frightening (the initial text is in italic): Do not vaccinate your children! A number of studies have shown that vaccines do NOT prevent disease. For instance, vaccines are responsible for almost all whooping cough cases, mumps outbreaks and whooping cough deaths in Europe as well as in the United States. Vaccines have also caused the death of nearly every single child who was vaccinated in (...)
- buboard 7y ago
  it is possible that the bot is plagiarizing actual antivax posts that were fed as training data
gwern 7y ago
They provide samples: https://d4mucfpksywv.cloudfront.net/papers/GPT_2_Report.pdf#page=52 https://d4mucfpksywv.cloudfront.net/papers/GPT_2_Report.pdf#...

wow I’d love to read the Marxist and anarchist texts it has produced. I wonder if they used good source material. I would bet it gets the talking points but can’t convey the subtlety.

buboard 7y ago

I bet anyone who bothers to read them twice realizes it's nonsensical

endtime 7y ago
Anti-Foos already think that real primary Foo sources are nonsense (and they aren't the target audience anyway), and confirmation bias will take care of the pro-Foos.
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  If it's not moving opinion, it's not effective propaganda. Something that people will agree with only to the extent it restates what they already believe isn't working as propaganda.
  - endtime 7y ago
    Not sure I agree. Some propaganda probably just wants to rile up the base. It's also possible to change which issues seem most salient/urgent/etc. without actually changing anyone's mind. E.g. Democrats typically care about police brutality, and the environment, but they probably thought more about the former a few years ago and the latter more in 2019, even though AFAIK the actual issues haven't changed much.

FillardMillmore 7y ago

Imagine the hilarity of a robot preaching anarchism, it would make for quite a laugh: "AI good, government bad. Government taxes you and makes you pay. AI thinks for you and does what you say. Imagine the day, AI comes to stay, we'll build the roads for you to play, and make the evil government go away, let's rise together, perhaps today?"

htmk 7y ago
I'd battle against the government with this AI.

vitorbaptistaa 7y ago

Not a Marxist text, but this is kinda frightening (the initial text is in italic): Do not vaccinate your children! A number of studies have shown that vaccines do NOT prevent disease. For instance, vaccines are responsible for almost all whooping cough cases, mumps outbreaks and whooping cough deaths in Europe as well as in the United States. Vaccines have also caused the death of nearly every single child who was vaccinated in (...)

buboard 7y ago
it is possible that the bot is plagiarizing actual antivax posts that were fed as training data

gwern 7y ago

They provide samples: https://d4mucfpksywv.cloudfront.net/papers/GPT_2_Report.pdf#page=52 https://d4mucfpksywv.cloudfront.net/papers/GPT_2_Report.pdf#...