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Full of Y-axis manipulation. Alarmist language. And what does this mean ? ( from the conclusions ) : "Mitigating and adapting to climate change while honoring

Full of Y-axis manipulation. Alarmist language. And what does this mean ? ( from the conclusions ) : "Mitigating and adapting to climate change while honoring the diversity of humans" Did they get bonus points for the diversity angle?

Miner49er 7y ago
Population control is often a dog whistle for ethnic cleansing. I think they are simply trying to be very clear that they aren't advocating for that.
- the-dude 7y ago
  The merely want to control the population?
  - adamch 7y ago
    No. As the report itself says, stabilizing the population (or slightly shrinking it) will help fight climate change, but that can be done very easily without "population control". "make family-planning services available to all people, remove barriers to their access and achieve full gender equity, including primary and secondary education as a global norm for all, especially girls and young women [1] Which makes sense! Rather than some sort of authoritarian China-esque policy of limiting children, just spread access to goods (like education, contraception and abortion) which allow people to control how many children they have. [1] https://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6403/650 https://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6403/650
rebuilder 7y ago
I believe it means "while avoiding a totalitarian hell"
excalibur 7y ago
Looks to me like the Y-axes were consistently manipulated, with the sinister aim of fitting all of the data points in some very limited real estate for each graph.
- the-dude 7y ago
  And because there are so many graphs, one would like to correlate. Which is totally senseless now.
  - excalibur 7y ago
    ...Most of them aren't even measuring the same variable. What were you hoping to correlate? For the handful of pairs that are apples to apples, couldn't you just imagine one being situated above the other?
erentz 7y ago
It's perfectly fine to truncate the y-axis on line charts when zero is not in the normal range of values. The charts all look very clear and it's easy to interpret the data and trends to me.

Miner49er 7y ago

Population control is often a dog whistle for ethnic cleansing. I think they are simply trying to be very clear that they aren't advocating for that.

the-dude 7y ago
The merely want to control the population?
- adamch 7y ago
  No. As the report itself says, stabilizing the population (or slightly shrinking it) will help fight climate change, but that can be done very easily without "population control". "make family-planning services available to all people, remove barriers to their access and achieve full gender equity, including primary and secondary education as a global norm for all, especially girls and young women [1] Which makes sense! Rather than some sort of authoritarian China-esque policy of limiting children, just spread access to goods (like education, contraception and abortion) which allow people to control how many children they have. [1] https://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6403/650 https://science.sciencemag.org/content/361/6403/650

rebuilder 7y ago

I believe it means "while avoiding a totalitarian hell"

excalibur 7y ago

Looks to me like the Y-axes were consistently manipulated, with the sinister aim of fitting all of the data points in some very limited real estate for each graph.

the-dude 7y ago
And because there are so many graphs, one would like to correlate. Which is totally senseless now.
- excalibur 7y ago
  ...Most of them aren't even measuring the same variable. What were you hoping to correlate? For the handful of pairs that are apples to apples, couldn't you just imagine one being situated above the other?

erentz 7y ago

It's perfectly fine to truncate the y-axis on line charts when zero is not in the normal range of values. The charts all look very clear and it's easy to interpret the data and trends to me.