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Yeah, and AFAIK they actually maintain an alternative version of Windows (LTSB they call it) for enterprise. I would like a modernized Windows without all the

Yeah, and AFAIK they actually maintain an alternative version of Windows (LTSB they call it) for enterprise. I would like a modernized Windows without all the cruft; one of the reasons Windows apps have such poor quality is that apps don’t need to update their internals, so they just can’t get advantage of the newer features. I’m not sure, but last time I saw the Windows land, win32-based apps HiDPI support is opt-in, not opt-out. Apple has a great record on deprecating things in a fairly understandable speed, so apps in macOS generally have up-to-date internals with all of the features working consistently. Most apps use the control-center (compared to Windows where every app reinvents notifications, even with the existence of the notification center added in Windows 10), use macOS tabs, users can define keybindings that work in every Cocoa TextField, etc...

Wowfunhappy 7y ago
LTSB/LTSC isn't an alternate version of Windows per se. It's a "branch" of Windows 10 that gets security updates but not feature updates. As far as I'm concerned, LTSC is _perfect_. I want security updates, but I don't want the rest of my OS to change out from under me. And, because the security updates are much smaller, they download and install far more quickly.
WorldMaker 7y ago
> I would like a modernized Windows without all the cruft I miss Windows Phone 10 every day still. Sometimes I still miss Windows 8, when the Win32 desktop booted late and if you stayed entirely in UWP apps things were wildly clean and Windows ran like a dream. (I also know how many people hated that experience.) Windows has the "flex" to do it, just not the developer nor the user buy-in. There's an hope with "Windows 10X" they are trying to "flex" a bit, show people what Windows can do when allowed to limit the legacy cruft. The legacy cruft is all still there though, Microsoft has learned the hard way it's there for good, but maybe there's a small bit of hope that developers might be interested in enough in making first class "10X" applications, users enough interest in the magic of post-legacy Windows UI to try new experiences at least some of the time they aren't using the comfort food of the classic Win32 legacy. Maybe a little hope, we'll see.

Wowfunhappy 7y ago

LTSB/LTSC isn't an alternate version of Windows per se. It's a "branch" of Windows 10 that gets security updates but not feature updates. As far as I'm concerned, LTSC is _perfect_. I want security updates, but I don't want the rest of my OS to change out from under me. And, because the security updates are much smaller, they download and install far more quickly.

WorldMaker 7y ago

> I would like a modernized Windows without all the cruft I miss Windows Phone 10 every day still. Sometimes I still miss Windows 8, when the Win32 desktop booted late and if you stayed entirely in UWP apps things were wildly clean and Windows ran like a dream. (I also know how many people hated that experience.) Windows has the "flex" to do it, just not the developer nor the user buy-in. There's an hope with "Windows 10X" they are trying to "flex" a bit, show people what Windows can do when allowed to limit the legacy cruft. The legacy cruft is all still there though, Microsoft has learned the hard way it's there for good, but maybe there's a small bit of hope that developers might be interested in enough in making first class "10X" applications, users enough interest in the magic of post-legacy Windows UI to try new experiences at least some of the time they aren't using the comfort food of the classic Win32 legacy. Maybe a little hope, we'll see.