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Firefox and Safari solve that same issue (with reader view) without the need to destroy open web in the process.

jm_l 7y ago
I don't believe Firefox reader saves bandwidth, just alters the users view.
derivagral 7y ago
I love reader view in Firefox, but is it possible to set it default in Android? Otherwise I still have to load most of the assets.
mattnewton 7y ago
They don't download less bytes, they just throw them away. It's a solution to a different problem (that the site has become unusable, not that it loads unbearably slow) Disclaimer: I'm a googler, my options are my own, I am not connected to the AMP project.
- pmoriarty 7y ago
  "Disclaimer: I'm a googler, my options are my own, I am not connected to the AMP project." Nice Freudian slip which points to one important reason why some Googlers won't criticize their own company's behavior.
  - mattnewton 7y ago
    I mean, it's a good quip, but it's autocorrect, and we don't get stock options we get restricted stock units :P One of the reasons why I work at Google is, as a former web developer I didn't feel AMP was a problem. I did feel MAVEN was a problem, despite what that could do for my stocks. I get the criticism and do think AMP has a lot of problems, but I also think it's crazy that's what we are talking about in an article about oil and gas activism. /Shrug
    - pmoriarty 7y ago
      Do you feel all the tracking Google does of people is a problem? What about manipulating people through advertising?
      - mav3rick 7y ago
        Did you ever watch Television growing up ? Or you're bitter because it's cool to be anti Google these days.
      - eclipxe 7y ago
        How does Google manipulate people through advertising?
  - davidcbc 7y ago
    If Googlers weren't criticizing their own company's behavior there wouldn't be news stories every week about the new thing Googlers are criticizing Google about. I find that Googlers as a whole are way more willing to criticize Google (both publicly and internally) than employees any other company I've worked for.
Kiro 7y ago
No, that solves nothing that AMP solves. Your comment is disinformation that make it seem like a non-issue. Bandwidth is a real problem in developing countries that I feel people are not taking seriously. I don't think you understand the difference AMP makes.
- marcus_holmes 7y ago
  some developing countries. Cambodia (well, Phnom Penh) mobile data rates are amazing, way better than Australia (for example). Seeing tuk-tuk drivers earning $20/day watching YouTube non-stop while waiting for fares is weird. They definitely aren't going to see a difference from AMP.

jm_l 7y ago

I don't believe Firefox reader saves bandwidth, just alters the users view.

I love reader view in Firefox, but is it possible to set it default in Android? Otherwise I still have to load most of the assets.

mattnewton 7y ago

They don't download less bytes, they just throw them away. It's a solution to a different problem (that the site has become unusable, not that it loads unbearably slow) Disclaimer: I'm a googler, my options are my own, I am not connected to the AMP project.

pmoriarty 7y ago
"Disclaimer: I'm a googler, my options are my own, I am not connected to the AMP project." Nice Freudian slip which points to one important reason why some Googlers won't criticize their own company's behavior.
- mattnewton 7y ago
  I mean, it's a good quip, but it's autocorrect, and we don't get stock options we get restricted stock units :P One of the reasons why I work at Google is, as a former web developer I didn't feel AMP was a problem. I did feel MAVEN was a problem, despite what that could do for my stocks. I get the criticism and do think AMP has a lot of problems, but I also think it's crazy that's what we are talking about in an article about oil and gas activism. /Shrug
  - pmoriarty 7y ago
    Do you feel all the tracking Google does of people is a problem? What about manipulating people through advertising?
    - mav3rick 7y ago
      Did you ever watch Television growing up ? Or you're bitter because it's cool to be anti Google these days.
    - eclipxe 7y ago
      How does Google manipulate people through advertising?
- davidcbc 7y ago
  If Googlers weren't criticizing their own company's behavior there wouldn't be news stories every week about the new thing Googlers are criticizing Google about. I find that Googlers as a whole are way more willing to criticize Google (both publicly and internally) than employees any other company I've worked for.

Kiro 7y ago

No, that solves nothing that AMP solves. Your comment is disinformation that make it seem like a non-issue. Bandwidth is a real problem in developing countries that I feel people are not taking seriously. I don't think you understand the difference AMP makes.

marcus_holmes 7y ago
some developing countries. Cambodia (well, Phnom Penh) mobile data rates are amazing, way better than Australia (for example). Seeing tuk-tuk drivers earning $20/day watching YouTube non-stop while waiting for fares is weird. They definitely aren't going to see a difference from AMP.