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I even have software (Drawful 2) that was released in 2016 and won't run on Catalina because it is 32-bit. That's just three years.

jsjohnst 7y ago
That’s on the developers to be honest, less so on Apple (but Apple is not entirely guilt free). It was very clear in 2016 that they should’ve been targeting 64bit.
- UserIsUnused 7y ago
  That's a stupid argument, when comparing to windows examples, were that simply doesn't matter, you develop for current and 20years later it's supported.
- kerng 7y ago
  Not really, Apple could have just supported running 32 bit apps. Google is pulling similar things in the Play Store. They will pull apps just because they are not 64 bit. They delayed the deadline for a year now, because many developers really don't care. And as a consumer it really does not matter. Why would a 32 bit app not work 10 years from now?
  - oneplane 7y ago
    They could have, but they chose to not have stalled developers on their platform instead.
- Crinus 7y ago
  There is no technical reason (in that they could technically keep 32bit support) for Apple to drop 32bit support since the x86 CPUs they rely on support them - i've heard that there were some architectural reasons with Cocoa (i think) that made it harder to do that, but they came up with that architecture themselves while knowing that people have invested on 32bit support. They knowingly decided that making the work easier for a handful of people was more important than the many thousands of applications that would break - they put themselves above their customers.
  - twobat 7y ago
    Go ahead and install Wine x86 on a Gentoo x64. Only then you will understand what it means to support 32 bit apps.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    I heard that the 32-bit Objective-C runtime was just a massive pain to support because it never got the new features from 2.0.
- catalogia 7y ago
  Suppose the sole developer died five years ago. Had he created an application for Windows, his users would still get to enjoy it. Had he created a FOSS application and given his users the source code, his users would still get to enjoy it. But if he created a closed source MacOS application, then his application soon joins him in death.
misnome 7y ago
Oh hey, Drawful 2 is the reason I’m not upgrading!

jsjohnst 7y ago

That’s on the developers to be honest, less so on Apple (but Apple is not entirely guilt free). It was very clear in 2016 that they should’ve been targeting 64bit.

UserIsUnused 7y ago
That's a stupid argument, when comparing to windows examples, were that simply doesn't matter, you develop for current and 20years later it's supported.
kerng 7y ago
Not really, Apple could have just supported running 32 bit apps. Google is pulling similar things in the Play Store. They will pull apps just because they are not 64 bit. They delayed the deadline for a year now, because many developers really don't care. And as a consumer it really does not matter. Why would a 32 bit app not work 10 years from now?
- oneplane 7y ago
  They could have, but they chose to not have stalled developers on their platform instead.
Crinus 7y ago
There is no technical reason (in that they could technically keep 32bit support) for Apple to drop 32bit support since the x86 CPUs they rely on support them - i've heard that there were some architectural reasons with Cocoa (i think) that made it harder to do that, but they came up with that architecture themselves while knowing that people have invested on 32bit support. They knowingly decided that making the work easier for a handful of people was more important than the many thousands of applications that would break - they put themselves above their customers.
- twobat 7y ago
  Go ahead and install Wine x86 on a Gentoo x64. Only then you will understand what it means to support 32 bit apps.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  I heard that the 32-bit Objective-C runtime was just a massive pain to support because it never got the new features from 2.0.
catalogia 7y ago
Suppose the sole developer died five years ago. Had he created an application for Windows, his users would still get to enjoy it. Had he created a FOSS application and given his users the source code, his users would still get to enjoy it. But if he created a closed source MacOS application, then his application soon joins him in death.

misnome 7y ago

Oh hey, Drawful 2 is the reason I’m not upgrading!