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Americais and always has been fantastic place if you're part of the upper 20% and dog shit for everyone else. We just have great propaganda.

RickJWagner 7y ago
I totally disagree. I was raised in a family of 8 kids, we didn't have any money. All my siblings and friends have had a good shot at the American dream, most of us have done quite well. I've also lived in several different states. Haven't seen anything even close to 80% dog crap. Not even close.
Reedx 7y ago
I mean, imagine telling that to people living in poor countries. Please travel or read about the world to get some perspective. Seriously, if you were born in a country like the U.S. in modern times, you won the birth lottery.
- drewmol 7y ago
  >Seriously, if you were born in a country like the U.S. in modern times, you won the birth lottery. Agreed. The lottery won is for starting position in a game where participation is not choosen and objective you choose determines position ranking.
- awestroke 7y ago
  Nah. Winning the lottery is being born in a country with free health care and education. Being born in the US is OK at best.
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barry-cotter 7y ago
The Thirteen Colonies were the richest group of states under the British and as the US grew it continued to be land rich and labour poor. Americans were noticeably taller than Europeans until week after WWII. The rest of the world has caught up some but the US is without a doubt in the top ten by GDP per capita though competing with city states and what would be individual states there. Measured by average individual consumption it’s probably number 1. The US may not be a good place to be in the bottom 10%, possibly even the bottom 20% but by standards of living for normal people nowhere else compares.
- blaser-waffle 7y ago
  > The US may not be a good place to be in the bottom 10%, possibly even the bottom 20% but by standards of living for normal people nowhere else compares. Arguably, not even the bottom 50%. Even a minor medical issue can tank middle-class families. OTOH, you're in the top 30% of the bell curve there is nowhere else better than the US.

RickJWagner 7y ago

I totally disagree. I was raised in a family of 8 kids, we didn't have any money. All my siblings and friends have had a good shot at the American dream, most of us have done quite well. I've also lived in several different states. Haven't seen anything even close to 80% dog crap. Not even close.

Reedx 7y ago

I mean, imagine telling that to people living in poor countries. Please travel or read about the world to get some perspective. Seriously, if you were born in a country like the U.S. in modern times, you won the birth lottery.

drewmol 7y ago
>Seriously, if you were born in a country like the U.S. in modern times, you won the birth lottery. Agreed. The lottery won is for starting position in a game where participation is not choosen and objective you choose determines position ranking.
awestroke 7y ago
Nah. Winning the lottery is being born in a country with free health care and education. Being born in the US is OK at best.
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barry-cotter 7y ago

The Thirteen Colonies were the richest group of states under the British and as the US grew it continued to be land rich and labour poor. Americans were noticeably taller than Europeans until week after WWII. The rest of the world has caught up some but the US is without a doubt in the top ten by GDP per capita though competing with city states and what would be individual states there. Measured by average individual consumption it’s probably number 1. The US may not be a good place to be in the bottom 10%, possibly even the bottom 20% but by standards of living for normal people nowhere else compares.

blaser-waffle 7y ago
> The US may not be a good place to be in the bottom 10%, possibly even the bottom 20% but by standards of living for normal people nowhere else compares. Arguably, not even the bottom 50%. Even a minor medical issue can tank middle-class families. OTOH, you're in the top 30% of the bell curve there is nowhere else better than the US.