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EDIT: OP corrected comment - read below only out of idle curiosity! Minor fact-checking / naming correction. The CPU core architecture progression has been Ze

EDIT: OP corrected comment - read below only out of idle curiosity! Minor fact-checking / naming correction. The CPU core architecture progression has been Zen, Zen+, Zen 2. The retail consumer desktop and laptop CPUs have been designated Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 with model numbers to help guide you on performance, but starting with a 3 (e.g. 3800X) in desktop CPU indicates Zen 2, while a 3 in mobile or desktop APU indicates Zen+. Current laptops are based on Zen+, including examples of Ryzen 5 3500U (low power/15W) and 3550H (medium power/35W) and Ryzen 7 3750H (high end). Many of us are excited for the release of Zen 2 based laptop chips, though!

CoolGuySteve 7y ago
The generation gap within mobile and desktop Ryzens of the same leading digit model number is really atrocious marketing. Almost like AMD is trying to take advantage of people by pretending mobile is a generation ahead. What purpose does it serve?
- chao- 7y ago
  The purpose is to position products in a way that avoids a negative impression, in a manner that might impact sales. I would not be surprised to hear that OEMs view this quirk product positioning in a positive light. It doesn't take much to imagine a customer thinking to themselves "Why are the laptop CPUs only in the 2000's when the desktop CPUs are in the 3000's? I'll wait and buy later." So AMD wants to position the current-best available products in each market segment as the current generation numerically, branding-wise, without respect to manufacturing process details. Most consumers don't know what a "process" or "architecture" is anyway. Then the nerds who track these things, such as ourselves, will complain, but we won't be fooled by it. If that seems to you like taking advantage of people, then yes, that is exactly what they are doing. Intel dodges this problem (at least for the last 4-5 years) by shipping their mobile SKUs on a new march or process first, and the nerds waiting on DIY Desktop parts their "8th Gen" or "9th Gen" or whatever later.
pedrocr 7y ago
I know this and used the naming explicitly. I'm hoping for a Zen 2 X1 Carbon. The current Zen mobile CPUs are not yet competitive from what I've seen.
- neogodless 7y ago
  Ah - OK "Ryzen 2" threw me off. I agree - high-end 3xxx Zen+ mobile CPUs are generally compared to 8th/9th gen Intel Core i5 chips.
  - pedrocr 7y ago
    Ah, you're right, Ryzen 2 is strange, I've changed it to Zen 2.
kevin_thibedeau 7y ago
The desktop 3000 series APUs are still Zen+.
- neogodless 7y ago
  Gotcha! Updated my post.

CoolGuySteve 7y ago

The generation gap within mobile and desktop Ryzens of the same leading digit model number is really atrocious marketing. Almost like AMD is trying to take advantage of people by pretending mobile is a generation ahead. What purpose does it serve?

chao- 7y ago
The purpose is to position products in a way that avoids a negative impression, in a manner that might impact sales. I would not be surprised to hear that OEMs view this quirk product positioning in a positive light. It doesn't take much to imagine a customer thinking to themselves "Why are the laptop CPUs only in the 2000's when the desktop CPUs are in the 3000's? I'll wait and buy later." So AMD wants to position the current-best available products in each market segment as the current generation numerically, branding-wise, without respect to manufacturing process details. Most consumers don't know what a "process" or "architecture" is anyway. Then the nerds who track these things, such as ourselves, will complain, but we won't be fooled by it. If that seems to you like taking advantage of people, then yes, that is exactly what they are doing. Intel dodges this problem (at least for the last 4-5 years) by shipping their mobile SKUs on a new march or process first, and the nerds waiting on DIY Desktop parts their "8th Gen" or "9th Gen" or whatever later.

pedrocr 7y ago

I know this and used the naming explicitly. I'm hoping for a Zen 2 X1 Carbon. The current Zen mobile CPUs are not yet competitive from what I've seen.

neogodless 7y ago
Ah - OK "Ryzen 2" threw me off. I agree - high-end 3xxx Zen+ mobile CPUs are generally compared to 8th/9th gen Intel Core i5 chips.
- pedrocr 7y ago
  Ah, you're right, Ryzen 2 is strange, I've changed it to Zen 2.

kevin_thibedeau 7y ago

The desktop 3000 series APUs are still Zen+.

neogodless 7y ago
Gotcha! Updated my post.