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I'd be fine with a clock with a wi-fi chip, provided that it have a hardware firewall that blocks everything but Network Time Protocol, and include a USB port f

I'd be fine with a clock with a wi-fi chip, provided that it have a hardware firewall that blocks everything but Network Time Protocol, and include a USB port for business such as updating firmware, updating zoneinfo, or changing IP addresses. Also, it might have been a gift from a well-meaning friend or family member.

pavel_lishin 7y ago
I'd be fine with a clock that has a wifi chip, provided I didn't need to install a fucking app on my phone to change the goddamned alarm.
- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  > I'd be fine with a clock that has a wifi chip, provided I didn't need to install a fucking app on my phone to change the goddamned alarm. It's worse than that. You have to create an account. I facepalmed reading that. I hate companies that create such garbage.
- logfromblammo 7y ago
  Agreed. My phone already has an alarm clock app that sounds an alarm through the phone speaker. If someone tries to sell me a separate alarm clock hardware device that requires a smartphone app to accomplish basic functionality that is already available on the phone itself, I am liable to become very hostile and recount unflattering anecdotes about the salesperson's mother. It's a GDMF clock. We already have well-established user interface paradigms for clock-setting that require only two binary input buttons, in devices that cost less than $0.05 to manufacture. The use case for a network-connected clock is to never have to set the time manually, or update it for daylight savings. That is a feature you add to a clock that is already completely functional without a network. You can add a wifi password with just two buttons and a 16-segment LCD, if you are patient enough.
  - perl4ever 7y ago
    "You can add a wifi password with just two buttons" Reminds me that I bought a printer with wifi, which I didn't really want, but it didn't come with a cable, so then I found out you had to enter passwords by hitting an up or down button to scroll through all possible characters. Eventually I found a USB cable that worked with it.
JohnFen 7y ago
> I'd be fine with a clock with a wi-fi chip Not me, if only because that's entirely unnecessary for a clock to do what I want a clock to do (including setting the time itself).

pavel_lishin 7y ago

I'd be fine with a clock that has a wifi chip, provided I didn't need to install a fucking app on my phone to change the goddamned alarm.

TeMPOraL 7y ago
> I'd be fine with a clock that has a wifi chip, provided I didn't need to install a fucking app on my phone to change the goddamned alarm. It's worse than that. You have to create an account. I facepalmed reading that. I hate companies that create such garbage.
logfromblammo 7y ago
Agreed. My phone already has an alarm clock app that sounds an alarm through the phone speaker. If someone tries to sell me a separate alarm clock hardware device that requires a smartphone app to accomplish basic functionality that is already available on the phone itself, I am liable to become very hostile and recount unflattering anecdotes about the salesperson's mother. It's a GDMF clock. We already have well-established user interface paradigms for clock-setting that require only two binary input buttons, in devices that cost less than $0.05 to manufacture. The use case for a network-connected clock is to never have to set the time manually, or update it for daylight savings. That is a feature you add to a clock that is already completely functional without a network. You can add a wifi password with just two buttons and a 16-segment LCD, if you are patient enough.
- perl4ever 7y ago
  "You can add a wifi password with just two buttons" Reminds me that I bought a printer with wifi, which I didn't really want, but it didn't come with a cable, so then I found out you had to enter passwords by hitting an up or down button to scroll through all possible characters. Eventually I found a USB cable that worked with it.

JohnFen 7y ago

> I'd be fine with a clock with a wi-fi chip Not me, if only because that's entirely unnecessary for a clock to do what I want a clock to do (including setting the time itself).