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> where one is expected to pay for parking at a private grocery store parking lot God forbid. /s

Annatar 7y ago
If you're bringing business to the grocery store, it shouldn't try to gouge you extra. That's over the top even for a capitalist like me.
- lixtra 7y ago
  Why should I, coming by bike, pay for your parking spot? Make the products cheaper and you can pay for the parking yourself.
  - a_t48 7y ago
    Would you be willing to pay to lock your bike up, too?
    - lixtra 7y ago
      Sure. In many places with scarce place that is the case (i.e. train station).
  - Annatar 7y ago
    You are not paying for my parking spot, that's bullshit. The store made a business investment to attract customers, it has nothing to do with you. When I read such comments, it just reinforces my belief that Switzerland is a car hating country.
_pferreir_ 7y ago
Public hospitals too. True story. Even though TBH, it's not shocking to me, considering how good public transport is around here. State-run public transport, BTW.
- jen20 7y ago
  One pays to park at UK hospitals too.
  - moltar 7y ago
    Canada too, and thru the nose!
- Annatar 7y ago
  It is shocking to me; car owners get gouged on no less than four different surcharge taxes (license plate registration renewal, road tax, vignette on top of the road tax, fuel tax)... and then public places like that gouge them on parking. Because they haven't been extorted enough and ridden enough and squeezed enough for the luxury privilege of owning and driving a car? "Car owners don't want to be packed like sardines in a tram, bus and train with a whole bunch of other strangers, so let's punish them!" That makes me so angry, AAARRRGGGHHH!!!
  - _pferreir_ 7y ago
    I don't think it's about "punishing" drivers, it's just that infrastructure costs money and, TBH, the "vignette" is extremely cheap (to say the least) when compared with what you pay for highways e.g. in neighbouring France and Italy. As for public transport, I don't have the same experience (I do have a car but use it quite often), I only felt like a "sardine" in rare occasions. There are buses/trams/trains often enough to avoid the busiest "rush hour" trips.

If you're bringing business to the grocery store, it shouldn't try to gouge you extra. That's over the top even for a capitalist like me.

lixtra 7y ago
Why should I, coming by bike, pay for your parking spot? Make the products cheaper and you can pay for the parking yourself.
- a_t48 7y ago
  Would you be willing to pay to lock your bike up, too?
  - lixtra 7y ago
    Sure. In many places with scarce place that is the case (i.e. train station).
- Annatar 7y ago
  You are not paying for my parking spot, that's bullshit. The store made a business investment to attract customers, it has nothing to do with you. When I read such comments, it just reinforces my belief that Switzerland is a car hating country.

_pferreir_ 7y ago

Public hospitals too. True story. Even though TBH, it's not shocking to me, considering how good public transport is around here. State-run public transport, BTW.

jen20 7y ago
One pays to park at UK hospitals too.
- moltar 7y ago
  Canada too, and thru the nose!
Annatar 7y ago
It is shocking to me; car owners get gouged on no less than four different surcharge taxes (license plate registration renewal, road tax, vignette on top of the road tax, fuel tax)... and then public places like that gouge them on parking. Because they haven't been extorted enough and ridden enough and squeezed enough for the luxury privilege of owning and driving a car? "Car owners don't want to be packed like sardines in a tram, bus and train with a whole bunch of other strangers, so let's punish them!" That makes me so angry, AAARRRGGGHHH!!!
- _pferreir_ 7y ago
  I don't think it's about "punishing" drivers, it's just that infrastructure costs money and, TBH, the "vignette" is extremely cheap (to say the least) when compared with what you pay for highways e.g. in neighbouring France and Italy. As for public transport, I don't have the same experience (I do have a car but use it quite often), I only felt like a "sardine" in rare occasions. There are buses/trams/trains often enough to avoid the busiest "rush hour" trips.