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> Have you read Raymond Chen’s blog about all of the obscure one off hacks Microsoft has had to add to keep misbehaving apps from breaking? That is precisely w

by kd3 7y ago

> Have you read Raymond Chen’s blog about all of the obscure one off hacks Microsoft has had to add to keep misbehaving apps from breaking? That is precisely why I mentioned Microsoft. They have historically gone through great lengths to keep devs happy.

scarface74 7y ago
And where has that gotten them? Slow release cycles, unable to compete in mobile and now Apple alone sells more iOS devices than all Windows manufacturers combined. You create a compelling platform for users and developers will come along. That’s what happens when you focus on developers instead of users. How much smaller would Windows be if they didn’t have all of these backwards compstible hacks? Hell, they had a half dozen different ways to define a string that you actively had to convert back and forth between just to call various APIs and that was back in the early 2000s. I’m sure it’s gotten worse since then. You don’t have to make developers happy. Developers will go to where the users are. Where is all of the development energy these days? It’s definitely not on Windows. What makes developers “happy” are paying customers. Microsoft has been trying and failing for years to produce a viable ARM laptops. Partially because of an insistence on backwards compatibility and all of the code bloat that entails. Apple transitioned the Mac platform four times since 1984 and created four successful ARM based platforms in the last decade.
- kd3 7y ago
  Microsofts failure in mobile has simply been due to the fact that they weren't able to excite users with hardware. This changed with the Surface line.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    Microsoft’s hardware was often the same hardware that ran Android especially from HTC. But as far as the Surface. MS only made $1.329 billion on Surface devices. That’s less than a third of what Apple makes on Macs. Heck that’s less than Apple makes on Watches and AirPods. https://sixcolors.com/post/2019/10/apple-results-64b-in-revenue-on-record-services-income/#more https://sixcolors.com/post/2019/10/apple-results-64b-in-reve... https://www.techradar.com/news/microsofts-surface-sales-keep-getting-stronger-with-a-21-leap https://www.techradar.com/news/microsofts-surface-sales-keep...

by kd3 7y ago

scarface74 7y ago

And where has that gotten them? Slow release cycles, unable to compete in mobile and now Apple alone sells more iOS devices than all Windows manufacturers combined. You create a compelling platform for users and developers will come along. That’s what happens when you focus on developers instead of users. How much smaller would Windows be if they didn’t have all of these backwards compstible hacks? Hell, they had a half dozen different ways to define a string that you actively had to convert back and forth between just to call various APIs and that was back in the early 2000s. I’m sure it’s gotten worse since then. You don’t have to make developers happy. Developers will go to where the users are. Where is all of the development energy these days? It’s definitely not on Windows. What makes developers “happy” are paying customers. Microsoft has been trying and failing for years to produce a viable ARM laptops. Partially because of an insistence on backwards compatibility and all of the code bloat that entails. Apple transitioned the Mac platform four times since 1984 and created four successful ARM based platforms in the last decade.

kd3 7y ago
Microsofts failure in mobile has simply been due to the fact that they weren't able to excite users with hardware. This changed with the Surface line.
- scarface74 7y ago
  Microsoft’s hardware was often the same hardware that ran Android especially from HTC. But as far as the Surface. MS only made $1.329 billion on Surface devices. That’s less than a third of what Apple makes on Macs. Heck that’s less than Apple makes on Watches and AirPods. https://sixcolors.com/post/2019/10/apple-results-64b-in-revenue-on-record-services-income/#more https://sixcolors.com/post/2019/10/apple-results-64b-in-reve... https://www.techradar.com/news/microsofts-surface-sales-keep-getting-stronger-with-a-21-leap https://www.techradar.com/news/microsofts-surface-sales-keep...