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If a service "by its very nature" does shady things, maybe that service should not be offered in the first place? Critcizing users afterwards that they "can't

If a service "by its very nature" does shady things, maybe that service should not be offered in the first place? Critcizing users afterwards that they "can't act shocked" for having these things done to them is only playing a blame game.

Spivak 7y ago
But it's not shady at all. Like these bike companies track the location of the bikes with GPS. Any when you go for a ride on one you are by proxy being tracked with GPS. Like this isn't magic or unexpected. Are you mad that an airlines have your location information while you're on the plane? Are you gonna demand the FAA stop tracking flights for rider privacy? But nobody actually getting the blame since it would be weird if anyone was actually mad at this. Does anyone seriously believe that using Find My iPhone doesn't allow Apple access to your phone's location for the purposes of showing you where it is?
stale2002 7y ago
It's not shady though! That's the point. If you buy a GPS tracker, for example, by definition it will track your GPS location. Would you expect a GPS tracker to not track your GPS location? Because that is what you are saying.
CountSessine 7y ago
Renting scooters and necessarily keeping track of them is “shady”? What else is shady?
XCabbage 7y ago
This is a very daft take. It's not even remotely shady for a service to inherently involve knowing where you are. That's something that is true of every brick and mortar store, and indeed every cab driver. Yet the government doesn't demand that those businesses provide real-time feeds of information about the movements of their customers, and if the government were to do so and they were to object on privacy grounds, we wouldn't take it to mean that their entire business model is inherently immoral and all shops should cease to exist.

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If a service "by its very nature" does shady things, maybe that service should not be offered in the first place? Critcizing users afterwards that they "can't

by diffeomorphism 7y ago

Spivak 7y ago
But it's not shady at all. Like these bike companies track the location of the bikes with GPS. Any when you go for a ride on one you are by proxy being tracked with GPS. Like this isn't magic or unexpected. Are you mad that an airlines have your location information while you're on the plane? Are you gonna demand the FAA stop tracking flights for rider privacy? But nobody actually getting the blame since it would be weird if anyone was actually mad at this. Does anyone seriously believe that using Find My iPhone doesn't allow Apple access to your phone's location for the purposes of showing you where it is?
stale2002 7y ago
It's not shady though! That's the point. If you buy a GPS tracker, for example, by definition it will track your GPS location. Would you expect a GPS tracker to not track your GPS location? Because that is what you are saying.
CountSessine 7y ago
Renting scooters and necessarily keeping track of them is “shady”? What else is shady?
XCabbage 7y ago
This is a very daft take. It's not even remotely shady for a service to inherently involve knowing where you are. That's something that is true of every brick and mortar store, and indeed every cab driver. Yet the government doesn't demand that those businesses provide real-time feeds of information about the movements of their customers, and if the government were to do so and they were to object on privacy grounds, we wouldn't take it to mean that their entire business model is inherently immoral and all shops should cease to exist.