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Edge Chromium Release on January 2020
- kodablah 7y agoIs anyone familiar with embeddability of Chromium-based Edge? MS web engines have been able to be used in shared libraries in the past and I'm hoping a win32/xaml control will be available for use. Even better if they contrib'd back the ability to leverage chrome DLLs.
- AndrewGaspar 7y agoI believe this is what you're referring to: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/hosting/webview2 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/hosting/webv...
- kodablah 7y agoExactly, thanks! I have been using CEF (Chromium Embedded Framework) for a while now, but as my needs for cross-platform dwindle (and I highly doubt Edge Chromium has any non-Windows plans), I might consider using this instead.
- Lx1oG-AWb6h_ZG0 7y agoFrom the first paragraph: > On January 15th, we expect to release the “Stable” channel, at which point Microsoft Edge will be generally available to download on Windows and macOS.
- judah 7y agoI work with the Chromium-based Edge, and yes, we have a new embeddable control that will work in native apps: WebView2 [0] We currently don't have a .NET wrapper for it yet, but plan to in the coming year. [0]: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/hosting/webview2 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/hosting/webv...
- dalfonso 7y agoI have to commend Microsoft on the new Edge logo. It's different enough from the IE and old Edge logo that savvy users will notice the change, but similar enough that the users who "just click on the blue e to go to the internet" probably won't notice the change.
- dessant 7y agoGoogle has shipped Manifest v3 in Chrome Canary, which severily limits how extensions are allowed to block and modify requests. What is Microsoft's plan regarding Manifest v3 in Edge Chromium, are they going to deprecate the blocking capabilities of the webRequest API?
- snowwolf 7y agoIs it easier to submit extensions to the Microsoft store? Last time I looked it was very closed off to a selection of hand picked extensions. To be fair this was probably over a year ago.
- dessant 7y agoThere is no public service yet for submitting extensions: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Discussions/How-do-you-submit-a-Microsoft-Edge-Insider-Addon-to-the/m-p/408452 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Discussions/How-do-yo...
- tracker1 7y agoDon't think so, at least not yet... on the flip side, about 3/4 of the extensions I tried from the chrome store did work without issue. Aside: I do like the edge ux slightly better than chrome itself at this point.. still not a daily driver, but very close.
- sixothree 7y agoYou can use chrome extensions without issue. At least all of the extensions I am using right now came from the chrome store.
- cyptus 7y agohere are some more infos about manifest v3 and edge chromium: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Discussions/Manifest-V3-Web-Request-Changes/m-p/658220 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Discussions/Manifest-... and https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/c094uf/hi_reddit_were_the_team_behind_microsoft_edge_and/er34xbw/ https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/c094uf/hi_reddit_were... as its not a clear statement that they will support manifest v2, they definitely are going to support extensions with the strong ability for blocking ads.
- wnevets 7y agoEdge switching chromium has made me care even less about it.
- badrabbit 7y agoI dislike both but maybe they can fork it and de-google it. MS is in a position to care about privacy if they want,at least to lure Chrome users where as Google will always be big-brother.
- snarfy 7y agoI can see a future where Edge is a better Chromium than Chrome is.
- pilif 7y agoChromium based Edge is de-googled. However it is Microsofted and Binged instead. At least there is now choice which company gets to have all of your data.
- olyjohn 7y agoOr you could not give either of them your data and use Firefox. I hear it's been around for a little while.
- pilif 7y agoMozilla’s track record in that regard isn’t stellar either though between episodes like the pocket integration and that forced iRobot marketing promo extension. I think browsers have become so complicated that maintaining them is so expensive that you need to sell user data one way or another in order to cover the maintenance costs.
- forgot-my-pw 7y agoYou can just use Chromium: https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium But you'll be missing the auto updates.
- felixthehat 7y agoI saw @maryjofoley refer to it as 'Chredge' the other day which gave me a chuckle
- haecceity 7y agoEdgium sounds better
- wayneftw 7y agoAny word on a Linux release?
- ISL 7y agoIs Microsoft now contributing to Chromium development?
- judah 7y agoYes, we are contributing to Chromium and have been for most of 2019.
- BuckRogers 7y agoWould you be able to raise the issue of adding an optional dedicated search bar to the new Edge, a la Firefox? The lack of container support is one thing, but using a dedicated search bar with DuckDuckGo bangs is something I just can't give up. It's also a good privacy point, not doing any prefetching. I've submitted this feedback but I think it's extremely low priority (understandable), and likely outright dismissed as that "old fashioned, useless search bar". To preemptively answer why I don't just use Firefox, I do, but Firefox on iOS is horrible and I'm fed up, it's a critical feature that the mobile partner works well.
- ISL 7y agoAwesome. As a pure Chromium user, thank you! It is healthy for key web infrastructure to be driven by multiple large stakeholders.
- kd3 7y agoI like the new logo a lot. But i very much dislike the fact that they seriously crippled the pdf and ebook functionality in the new browser. Especially since they also killed the old pdf Reader app and forced people to use the old Edge browser instead as their ebook and pdf reader.
- Santosh83 7y agoEpub capability is going away from old Edge. In fact it may already be removed. It can still read PDFs, as can new Edge. Didn't try Epubs with the latter though. I just bear with the UI of Calibre's Ebook Reader... it is raw to say the least at this point, but gets the job done.
- lacker 7y agoAs someone who read a lot of Slashdot in the 90's... what is the world coming to, when I'm rooting for Microsoft products because I don't want monopolies in browsers and operating systems?
- saagarjha 7y agoOf course, you may get more bang for your rooting buck if you supported a browser that didn’t use Blink as its rendering engine.
- hollerith 7y agoI hear that sentiment a lot on this site, but don't understand it. Since Blink is available under a very permissive license, why does it matter? It seems to me that the notion that it is important to have multiple implementations of a standard (and the notion that a formal standard is even necessary) derive from a time when those implementations had proprietary licenses.
- Santosh83 7y agoMatters because if at least two engines are equally popular (in terms of market share) or close to that, then no one entity will be able to disregard or exert undue influence over the standardisation process of web technologies. They will be forced to work together and presumably if one entity tries to do something evil the other will resist and since they have roughly equal market share, the evil proposal will be dead in water. Diversity of implementations is important as a means of checks and balances.
- hollerith 7y agoI continue to fail to understand. Is it not the case that if the popularity of Edge Chromium becomes close to that of Google Chrome, then your argument will apply just as well, i.e., if either Google or Microsoft tries to do something evil the other will resist? Why is whether the 2 project descend from the same codebase the decisive factor? I would've thought that the decisive factor is whether the second project is willing to deploy developer (and managerial) resources to the same extent as Google is willing to, i.e., many hundreds of full-time developers, each earning over 100,000 usd per year (and sufficiently competent managers).
- hollerith 7y agoSince Microsoft owns Github, and since Github leads the development of Electron, and since Microsoft leads the development of one of the most important Electron apps (VS Code), does Microsoft have any plans for increasing the sharing of code and developers between Edge Chromium and Electron? Alternatively, do they have any plans for eliminating VS Code's dependency on Electron?
- danlugo92 7y agoWhy don't we have shared electron runtimes? 1) Bundle electron release with app (bandwidth is cheap) 2) Find if that specific release is installed to your user directory. 3) If not copy 4) If yes, use it and don't copy it over. 5) Enforce semver for this of course.
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- hollerith 7y agoArch Linux tried to do something like that if this next web page is any indication although whether they succeeded or not I do not know: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/56686#issuecomment-414668704 https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/56686#issuecommen...
- fbelzile 7y agoI would love it if Microsoft integrated parts of Electron (or at least Chromium Edge) as the new WebBrowser component (or alternative Electron component) in .NET. This would be such a major game changer for me as someone making apps using the built in WebBrowser component. It would also help reduce the footprint of Electron apps as third-party developers wouldn't have to re-distribute libraries and Windows would be able to manage resources between the different Electron apps more efficiently.
- 300bps 7y agoI called for this to happen over 5.5 years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7909383 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7909383 I am thrilled that we're nearly there. I happily favor using apps from companies that don't base their primary existence on gathering and exploiting data about their users.
- flowerlad 7y agoThis is great news for privacy. We can now use Edge when accessing Google services such as Gmail, and Chrome when accessing Microsoft services. That way we can prevent the browser from helping the services track you (such as by logging you into the Browser itself when logging into services such as gmail.)
- newscracker 7y agoOr we could just use Firefox, whose tracking protections have been enhanced a lot. Make it even better by adding a bunch of popular extensions (uBlock Origin, NoScript, Privacy Possum, Cookie Auto Delete, Multi Account Containers, Decentraleyes and a few others). Another alternative for those who use Apple devices would be Safari, which is also strong on tracking protection. But the lack of good extensions on the latest Safari makes it a poorer proposition compared to Firefox.