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Not sure how they do it exactly, but one possibility is CCTV cameras watching drop-off locations. You can then compare footage at the timestamp it was reported
by candu 7y ago
Not sure how they do it exactly, but one possibility is CCTV cameras watching drop-off locations. You can then compare footage at the timestamp it was reported on-location if there's a dispute.
Combine this with a few anti-theft procedures that don't involve GPS / internet (as commonly used by bikeshare programs in various municipalities) and you've got something that might work.
- sneak 7y agoCCTV video files are just a less efficient form of GPS and time stamp logging. JSON from a GPS receiver is more straightforward.
- heavenlyblue 7y agoGPS logging, however, contains a bunch of data unrelated to the security of bicycles themselves. I also don’t understand how mentioning JSON is even relevant in this thread.
- sneak 7y agoIt’s to point out that their suggestion of CCTV is really just a type of unstructured logging, and isn’t much better than the structured logging that seems to be going on today.
- candu 7y agoThe point here isn't about structured vs. unstructured logging: it's about addressing the possibility that legitimate users get blamed for theft. This sort of dispute is probably going to end up in a legal forum at some point. In that case, video footage from a device that's not physically on the bike (and therefore much harder to tamper with) is going to carry much, much, much more weight than GPS traces. Also, you usually know exactly who is supposed to have access to CCTV camera systems / footage, and can therefore have those people make legally binding representations as to their accuracy / fidelity. (Of course, with regards to this problem, your objective as a service provider is to end up in court as infrequently as possible. You'd be more likely to invest in anti-theft measures so you can get the probability of theft low enough to reasonably write off as part of opex.)