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Sure, five companies you can reach out to and ask for your consumer trustworthiness records - privacy@sift.com - returnactivityreport@theretailequation.com.

Sure, five companies you can reach out to and ask for your consumer trustworthiness records - privacy@sift.com - returnactivityreport@theretailequation.com. - privacy@riskified.com. - privacy@kustomer.com. - https://zetaglobal.com/ https://zetaglobal.com/ is a form.

9HZZRfNlpR 7y ago
How do they verify you or how does it work in America? You don't have national ID card to do identification online.
- willart4food 7y ago
  > There are many companies in the business of scoring consumers. The challenge is to identify them. Once you do, the instructions on getting your data will probably be buried in their privacy policies. Ctrl-F “request” is a good way to find it. Most of these companies will also require you to send a photo of your driver’s license to verify your identity. Here are five that say they’ll share the data they have on you.
  - rags2riches 7y ago
    1. List your new consumer scoring company and an address for requesting your personal records. 2. Collect personal data supplied as verification for personal record requests. 3. Send personal record requests to other companies holding actual consumer data. 4. You are now in business, ready to sell consumer data!
    - dmurray 7y ago
      Not a great business plan as yet - "Zeta Global [...] told me that 10 people have requested their data so far" - but maybe you can be a first mover here.
      - sk5t 7y ago
        That number might not move if Zeta's form never sends the confirmation email, which, thus far, seems to be the case.
- lotsofpulp 7y ago
  Billing address for credit cards, email address for online accounts, use of rewards programs that have rewards accounts tied to the buyers, and phone numbers which are tied to a single person most times nowadays.
lioeters 7y ago
Thank you for the summary. On another note, those are some shady-sounding business names! privacy@kustomer.com indeed..
- thaumasiotes 7y ago
  > On another note, those are some shady-sounding business names! privacy@kustomer.com indeed.. Trademark law probably deserves some blame here; it's harder to trademark a word than a non-word.
high_derivative 7y ago
So can Europeans send a GDRP right-to-be-forgotten request to all of these?
- GoToRO 7y ago
  don't take my word for it, but I believe that you can only if they have opened a subsidiary in EU. The fine is percent of global sales (not profit).
  - toong 7y ago
    I believe that statement is incorrect :-)
  - mattlondon 7y ago
    As far as I understand it, if they are processing EU citizens' data then they are liable for GDPR regardless of where they run their business from. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-eu-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr-the-smart-persons-guide/ https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-eu-general-data-pro...
    - GoToRO 7y ago
      Then I'm curious how do they enforce it. Maybe with US there are some treaties signed, but what about a foreign country that has no treaties with the EU?
      - mschuster91 7y ago
        Go for the payment processors - seize any funds destined for the target company, for example.
      - volkl48 7y ago
        To date, the answer to that question appears to be: Sternly worded letters, which will be promptly ignored. There's no actual enforcement mechanisms against an entity that does not exist in the EU and has no financial exposure to it. That includes with the US, as far as I can tell.

9HZZRfNlpR 7y ago

How do they verify you or how does it work in America? You don't have national ID card to do identification online.

willart4food 7y ago
> There are many companies in the business of scoring consumers. The challenge is to identify them. Once you do, the instructions on getting your data will probably be buried in their privacy policies. Ctrl-F “request” is a good way to find it. Most of these companies will also require you to send a photo of your driver’s license to verify your identity. Here are five that say they’ll share the data they have on you.
- rags2riches 7y ago
  1. List your new consumer scoring company and an address for requesting your personal records. 2. Collect personal data supplied as verification for personal record requests. 3. Send personal record requests to other companies holding actual consumer data. 4. You are now in business, ready to sell consumer data!
  - dmurray 7y ago
    Not a great business plan as yet - "Zeta Global [...] told me that 10 people have requested their data so far" - but maybe you can be a first mover here.
    - sk5t 7y ago
      That number might not move if Zeta's form never sends the confirmation email, which, thus far, seems to be the case.
lotsofpulp 7y ago
Billing address for credit cards, email address for online accounts, use of rewards programs that have rewards accounts tied to the buyers, and phone numbers which are tied to a single person most times nowadays.

lioeters 7y ago

Thank you for the summary. On another note, those are some shady-sounding business names! privacy@kustomer.com indeed..

thaumasiotes 7y ago
> On another note, those are some shady-sounding business names! privacy@kustomer.com indeed.. Trademark law probably deserves some blame here; it's harder to trademark a word than a non-word.

high_derivative 7y ago

So can Europeans send a GDRP right-to-be-forgotten request to all of these?

GoToRO 7y ago
don't take my word for it, but I believe that you can only if they have opened a subsidiary in EU. The fine is percent of global sales (not profit).
- toong 7y ago
  I believe that statement is incorrect :-)
- mattlondon 7y ago
  As far as I understand it, if they are processing EU citizens' data then they are liable for GDPR regardless of where they run their business from. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-eu-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr-the-smart-persons-guide/ https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-eu-general-data-pro...
  - GoToRO 7y ago
    Then I'm curious how do they enforce it. Maybe with US there are some treaties signed, but what about a foreign country that has no treaties with the EU?
    - mschuster91 7y ago
      Go for the payment processors - seize any funds destined for the target company, for example.
    - volkl48 7y ago
      To date, the answer to that question appears to be: Sternly worded letters, which will be promptly ignored. There's no actual enforcement mechanisms against an entity that does not exist in the EU and has no financial exposure to it. That includes with the US, as far as I can tell.