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Wait until you see the skew in the teaching and nursing industries. Oh, the horror.

by pinkfoot 7y ago

estomagordo 7y ago
97.5% of teachers are women?
- ForHackernews 7y ago
  I'm not in the USA, but is it common there for teachers to receive millions of dollars from venture capitalists?
  - estomagordo 7y ago
    That's not a questsion that should get directed at me.
- petra 7y ago
  In the US , only about 6% of nurses are male. https://realmanswork.wordpress.com/2012/05/05/male-nurses-worldwide/ https://realmanswork.wordpress.com/2012/05/05/male-nurses-wo...
  - pinkfoot 7y ago
    Its also telling that the male-dominance of long distance trucking (in air-conditioned trucks with power-steering) is in the same range, but not so much as a peep about that.
    - estomagordo 7y ago
      If the long distance trucking forums aren't peeping about this, maybe ask _them_ why?
    - sct202 7y ago
      I think it depends on what circles you run in. I used to work in operations and there are definitely programs to get women in trucking, because for the employers it's a no brainer to get the potential labor pool to expand.
irb 7y ago
Yes, it is indicative of societal issues that women outnumber men in lower pay, lower status careers like teaching and nursing whereas men outnumber women in higher pay, higher status careers like tech.
- jki275 7y ago
  I would take strong exception your comment that teaching and nursing are "lower status" careers. My mother, grandmother, and grandfather all taught their entire lives and contributed greatly to society over the course of their lifetimes, and a college professor is a high status position by any objective measure. It's a position I would like to attain but never will because I simply don't have the time to put into it, and even though I have a good career in tech I wish I could follow in their footsteps at times. Nursing also pays quite well -- perhaps not quite the level of FAANG salaries, but six figure salaries in nursing are not at all uncommon, and relative to the education required to get into that career it is a very good return on investment. Also, nursing is absolutely not a low status career by any metric I know of either. You're trying to make a point, I get that -- and perhaps you could use other career fields to make it more legitimately, but the previous poster has a very good point as well. People gravitate towards careers that interest them -- my mother was never going to write software because she has no interest in that field, but she loved to teach and chose to do so her entire life. I love to teach as well, but I don't have the aptitude for dealing with an academic career.
  - PhasmaFelis 7y ago
    Low status isn't the same thing as low value. One of our big problems as a society is that educators don't get half the respect their position deserves.
    - jki275 7y ago
      I agree with you completely on that -- but even to call them low status is in my opinion simply inaccurate. Even teachers who aren't paid well are still not "low status" like a bartender or custodian or something that would more commonly (not saying I agree because I'm not a fan of such labels..) be considered a "low status" occupation. One of the things I appreciate about Japanese society is the fact that pretty much anyone who has a profession is proud of their profession, is paid well for it, and it's generally not considered proper to look down on someone for their position. Everyone contributes to society and that's how it should be.
dang 7y ago
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar and especially not by posting flamewar tropes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21440369 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21440369 and marked it off-topic.
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Wait until you see the skew in the teaching and nursing industries. Oh, the horror.

estomagordo 7y ago

97.5% of teachers are women?

ForHackernews 7y ago
I'm not in the USA, but is it common there for teachers to receive millions of dollars from venture capitalists?
- estomagordo 7y ago
  That's not a questsion that should get directed at me.
petra 7y ago
In the US , only about 6% of nurses are male. https://realmanswork.wordpress.com/2012/05/05/male-nurses-worldwide/ https://realmanswork.wordpress.com/2012/05/05/male-nurses-wo...
- pinkfoot 7y ago
  Its also telling that the male-dominance of long distance trucking (in air-conditioned trucks with power-steering) is in the same range, but not so much as a peep about that.
  - estomagordo 7y ago
    If the long distance trucking forums aren't peeping about this, maybe ask _them_ why?
  - sct202 7y ago
    I think it depends on what circles you run in. I used to work in operations and there are definitely programs to get women in trucking, because for the employers it's a no brainer to get the potential labor pool to expand.

irb 7y ago

Yes, it is indicative of societal issues that women outnumber men in lower pay, lower status careers like teaching and nursing whereas men outnumber women in higher pay, higher status careers like tech.

jki275 7y ago
I would take strong exception your comment that teaching and nursing are "lower status" careers. My mother, grandmother, and grandfather all taught their entire lives and contributed greatly to society over the course of their lifetimes, and a college professor is a high status position by any objective measure. It's a position I would like to attain but never will because I simply don't have the time to put into it, and even though I have a good career in tech I wish I could follow in their footsteps at times. Nursing also pays quite well -- perhaps not quite the level of FAANG salaries, but six figure salaries in nursing are not at all uncommon, and relative to the education required to get into that career it is a very good return on investment. Also, nursing is absolutely not a low status career by any metric I know of either. You're trying to make a point, I get that -- and perhaps you could use other career fields to make it more legitimately, but the previous poster has a very good point as well. People gravitate towards careers that interest them -- my mother was never going to write software because she has no interest in that field, but she loved to teach and chose to do so her entire life. I love to teach as well, but I don't have the aptitude for dealing with an academic career.
- PhasmaFelis 7y ago
  Low status isn't the same thing as low value. One of our big problems as a society is that educators don't get half the respect their position deserves.
  - jki275 7y ago
    I agree with you completely on that -- but even to call them low status is in my opinion simply inaccurate. Even teachers who aren't paid well are still not "low status" like a bartender or custodian or something that would more commonly (not saying I agree because I'm not a fan of such labels..) be considered a "low status" occupation. One of the things I appreciate about Japanese society is the fact that pretty much anyone who has a profession is proud of their profession, is paid well for it, and it's generally not considered proper to look down on someone for their position. Everyone contributes to society and that's how it should be.

dang 7y ago

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar and especially not by posting flamewar tropes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21440369 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21440369 and marked it off-topic.

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