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What? For me this is a big reason on why I want to use Gitlab. I am european and I think you're being pretty stupid. You celebrate that the company you work fo

What? For me this is a big reason on why I want to use Gitlab. I am european and I think you're being pretty stupid. You celebrate that the company you work for hire people in Russia rather from where you live. You seem to fail to realize that if all companies in your country would do that you would soon find yourself out of a job since there is always some place cheaper. No one is saying russians aren't knowledgeable or good at what they do. Maybe you should read what they actually write instead of simply projecting your straw man ideas onto them.

EugeneOZ 7y ago
Maybe you should read more about "protectionism", "nationalism" and "discrimination" - not just definitions, but how they affect economic.
- rimliu 7y ago
  Does that reading include Russia's plan to create their own internet free of influence from the rotten West?
  - EugeneOZ 7y ago
    "Influence"? Lol :) They want to isolate own people from any information, it's pure dictatorship, not related to anything I enlisted.
  - gdy 7y ago
    There is no such plan, you are misinformed.
    - rimliu 7y ago
      And you know this how? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50259597 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50259597
      - gdy 7y ago
        Haven't you heard about Russell's teapot? The burden of proof lies on you. For one thing, such isolation of Russian internet would have negative economic effect and it's the last thing Putin needs.
        rimliu 7y ago
        Search the news. No need go to the Mars orbit.
        gdy 7y ago
        I read this as "I looked for the proof of my words and failed to find any".
- ecmascript 7y ago
  How is their action discrimination? That's silly. Obviously it would be discrimination if they wouldn't hire people because they have a specific country of birth but that is not what they are doing. They are afraid that the governments of China and Russia could easily force people who live in those countries to give up data. That is a valid concern since that is happening in China. I know how it affects the economic. Just look at where stuff is produced. It's hard to find things that are produced in Europe or the states. You may say that this is a good thing but I disagree, the same thing could easily happen with software and that would be a dark day in my opinion. I don't care if that would make me "poorer" in the sense that I can have less material goods. It would still be a better world in my view and better for the environment. I rather pay more for something produced in the EU than to have something shipped from China just to save a few bucks.
  - EugeneOZ 7y ago
    I live in Europe and I use/consume things made in Europe every day. And instead of arguing to me, just read if protectionism was ever a good decision - just from the history. > I rather pay more for something produced in the EU than to have something shipped from China just to save a few bucks. Protectionism works quite contrary, so you do not support it anyway :)
    - ecmascript 7y ago
      Yes, it certainly is a good decision. For example, if we had no protections like customs China would easily subsidize any market they wish to gain monopoly of the market in question. This is happening even WITH protectionism like customs and tolls. Chinas government subsidize stuff like steel production which makes it hard for companies like SSAB in Sweden to compete with them since they sell their steel cheaper than the cost to produce it. How shall countries protect themselves from countries that act like that without protecting their market? It's extremely naive to think that countries that are rough dictatorships will play fair and nice. EU should have A LOT higher customs against countries like China. Trading with them on a fair level gives them too much economic control which is good for us in the short term but incredibly bad in the long term. That is why south park can make an episode like "Band in China" today because we have already given them a lot of control.

EugeneOZ 7y ago

Maybe you should read more about "protectionism", "nationalism" and "discrimination" - not just definitions, but how they affect economic.

rimliu 7y ago
Does that reading include Russia's plan to create their own internet free of influence from the rotten West?
- EugeneOZ 7y ago
  "Influence"? Lol :) They want to isolate own people from any information, it's pure dictatorship, not related to anything I enlisted.
- gdy 7y ago
  There is no such plan, you are misinformed.
  - rimliu 7y ago
    And you know this how? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50259597 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50259597
    - gdy 7y ago
      Haven't you heard about Russell's teapot? The burden of proof lies on you. For one thing, such isolation of Russian internet would have negative economic effect and it's the last thing Putin needs.
      - rimliu 7y ago
        Search the news. No need go to the Mars orbit.
        gdy 7y ago
        I read this as "I looked for the proof of my words and failed to find any".
ecmascript 7y ago
How is their action discrimination? That's silly. Obviously it would be discrimination if they wouldn't hire people because they have a specific country of birth but that is not what they are doing. They are afraid that the governments of China and Russia could easily force people who live in those countries to give up data. That is a valid concern since that is happening in China. I know how it affects the economic. Just look at where stuff is produced. It's hard to find things that are produced in Europe or the states. You may say that this is a good thing but I disagree, the same thing could easily happen with software and that would be a dark day in my opinion. I don't care if that would make me "poorer" in the sense that I can have less material goods. It would still be a better world in my view and better for the environment. I rather pay more for something produced in the EU than to have something shipped from China just to save a few bucks.
- EugeneOZ 7y ago
  I live in Europe and I use/consume things made in Europe every day. And instead of arguing to me, just read if protectionism was ever a good decision - just from the history. > I rather pay more for something produced in the EU than to have something shipped from China just to save a few bucks. Protectionism works quite contrary, so you do not support it anyway :)
  - ecmascript 7y ago
    Yes, it certainly is a good decision. For example, if we had no protections like customs China would easily subsidize any market they wish to gain monopoly of the market in question. This is happening even WITH protectionism like customs and tolls. Chinas government subsidize stuff like steel production which makes it hard for companies like SSAB in Sweden to compete with them since they sell their steel cheaper than the cost to produce it. How shall countries protect themselves from countries that act like that without protecting their market? It's extremely naive to think that countries that are rough dictatorships will play fair and nice. EU should have A LOT higher customs against countries like China. Trading with them on a fair level gives them too much economic control which is good for us in the short term but incredibly bad in the long term. That is why south park can make an episode like "Band in China" today because we have already given them a lot of control.