Yes, that is exactly my point. e2e war has nothing to do with actual "threats" that are beeing sold to us as they are and will (even more after all public debat

Yes, that is exactly my point. e2e war has nothing to do with actual "threats" that are beeing sold to us as they are and will (even more after all public debates) encrypt their data. Even local potheads that I know are using pgp. The whole sharade has nothing to do with threats, it is about monitoring everyone (HK scenario comes to my mind), it is not "war against terror", it is war against public.