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That is a load of cow manure aka confirmation bias. Israel has no compunction spying on the US. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard https://en.m.w

by babesh 7y ago

That is a load of cow manure aka confirmation bias. Israel has no compunction spying on the US. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/12/israel-planted-spying-devices-near-white-house-says-report https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/... There are definitely Chinese and Russian spies but there are spies from many countries besides those. The question is why are you singling out those countries and why now. The reason is that there is a Cold War brewing between the US and China and this company has become an agent of that war. The seems to be a propaganda war against China brewing in the US. I last saw this level of jingoism when Bush Jr decided to take over Iraq on the pretense of Saddam Hussein supposedly having nuclear weapons. All the TV network anchors were pushing for war and pushing the supposed threat. Later we find out it was all lies.

wolco 7y ago
Spying is happening between all nations and the leaked cables showed this. Why those two countries specifically? In Russia you can get imprisoned for a variety of political/strategic reasons if you refuse to cooperate. China implemented there own internet for spying. When you visit these countries you are advised to buy new devices and throw them out on return to avoid backdoors. General Powell misleading the UN and TV networks was based on having chemical weapons. Nuclear weapons is the fear with Iran. It was believed because the UN weapon inspector Hans Blix was being railroaded with fake traffic jams and other tactics preventing him from investigating. After he pulled out and Sadam had a history of using these types of weapons on his own people, it made the claim easier to accept without more proof.
- chupasaurus 7y ago
  Direct imprisonment in Russia isn't the reason for this topic, Federal Security Service had succesfully got their cooperation proposal accepted in most of the cases due to the unlimited number of ways they could coerce their target.
- mmjaa 7y ago
  >get imprisoned for a variety of political/strategic reasons if you refuse to cooperate The same is true of Australia, the USA, and the UK - these nations have no issues with imprisoning each others citizens if it behooves them - i.e. if the individual chooses not to cooperate with the military-industrial-pharmaceutical complex.

by babesh 7y ago

wolco 7y ago

Spying is happening between all nations and the leaked cables showed this. Why those two countries specifically? In Russia you can get imprisoned for a variety of political/strategic reasons if you refuse to cooperate. China implemented there own internet for spying. When you visit these countries you are advised to buy new devices and throw them out on return to avoid backdoors. General Powell misleading the UN and TV networks was based on having chemical weapons. Nuclear weapons is the fear with Iran. It was believed because the UN weapon inspector Hans Blix was being railroaded with fake traffic jams and other tactics preventing him from investigating. After he pulled out and Sadam had a history of using these types of weapons on his own people, it made the claim easier to accept without more proof.

chupasaurus 7y ago
Direct imprisonment in Russia isn't the reason for this topic, Federal Security Service had succesfully got their cooperation proposal accepted in most of the cases due to the unlimited number of ways they could coerce their target.
mmjaa 7y ago
>get imprisoned for a variety of political/strategic reasons if you refuse to cooperate The same is true of Australia, the USA, and the UK - these nations have no issues with imprisoning each others citizens if it behooves them - i.e. if the individual chooses not to cooperate with the military-industrial-pharmaceutical complex.