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Winning in traffic court is like winning forced arbitration. There is no neutral jury, you have judge that is being payed by the same government who benefits
by adrr 7y ago
Winning in traffic court is like winning forced arbitration. There is no neutral jury, you have judge that is being payed by the same government who benefits from the fines. Speed traps are illegal in California yet i still see cops hiding in alleys or shooting lidar off overpasses. It’s worse in small cities where city cops sit at the transition of highway speeds to city speeds and catch inattentive drivers.
- gowld 7y agoJudges aren't particularly motivated by fines. Unlike police officer, they don't get a cut or a bonus for collecting fines.
- adrr 7y agoThat’s what they say about forced arbitration. They are still appointed or hired by the municipal or county government. It beneficial for these governments to hire judges who will benefit them just like forced arbitration and companies.
- marcoseliziario 7y agoYou have a position of power in a system. A position that gives you a good salary, power over your fellow citizens, recognition and social status. You're probably going to identify yourself with the system, and thus, some level of bias pro-system is very, very likely.
- kortilla 7y agoJudges that process traffic tickets don’t really have any of those things.
- diminoten 7y agoHave Californians tried not speeding?
- maxaf 7y agoHa ha ha. The obvious solution is the best one, huh? Here in New York there’s a road in Brooklyn called “Ocean Parkway”, which has grown notorious for crashes small and large. In recent years it’s been studded with speed cameras, which collectively have reduced the speed on this wide 6-lane thoroughfare to something very close to the prescribed 25 mph. Speed cameras really do work. You know what’s even funnier? Those who are unaware of the cameras, or don’t care about those robofines, tend to look like complete idiots when they speed and swerve around rows and rows of cars driving nicely and carefully at 25 mph.
- baddox 7y agoSpeed limits are chosen by governments. Ostensibly the purpose of speed limits is road safety. But when those choices are driven by perverse incentives, they can lead to less safe roads. A snarky dismissal isn’t warranted.
- diminoten 7y agoIt absolutely is warranted, just stop going above the speed limit, and all your speed trap problems go away. You're acting like you have no choice but to speed, but you do have a choice, you always can decide to go the speed limit.
- adrr 7y agoThe reason for speed traps being banned is that they don’t help with road safety. What helps is cops being visible and patrolling the roads for dangerous drivers, not hiding in alleys or on overpasses. Traffic enforcement should only be about safety and not revenue. But at as we saw red light cameras, cities places them at lights with the most traffic and not the most dangerous intersections. They lowered the yellow light times and in some cities it was so low that you couldn’t safely stop the car in time. Cities always try to skirt the rules to make more money and traffic court is a good example. Government shouldn’t be able to deprive people of property (money) without a jury trial.
- diminoten 7y ago