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So the actual problem is that they don't take blood tests after the breath test says u drunk? In Germany this must happen (unless u say u drunk I think)

mytailorisrich 7y ago
In the UK if you fail a road-side test you'll be arrested and the police will conduct 2 further tests with another equipment as soon as you get to the police station. The lower reading of these two tests is kept. Interestingly, Police cannot demand a road-side breath test without cause.
- alkonaut 7y ago
  So police do no random road-side breath tests in the UK? Almost every time I have done the breath test (ten times or so) it has been in checkpoint tests where a dozen officers breath test every single driver during a few hours.
  - teh_klev 7y ago
    In the UK they certainly do. There's usually a campaign around the christmas season. But it's carried out under the guise as a general vehicle checkpoint. When stopped the officer will speak to the driver and then if they have "good reason" to suspect you've been drinking can insist on a portable breathalyser test. This reddit comment sums things up reasonably well: https://www.reddit.com/r/policeuk/comments/803y16/drink_drive_checkpoints_in_the_uk/dustr0o https://www.reddit.com/r/policeuk/comments/803y16/drink_driv...
    - mytailorisrich 7y ago
      That's not random testing since they have to establish cause, as that Reddit comment explains. Of course the Police may ask and many people will not know that they are not compelled to accept without cause, or they don't want to argue. In some countries the police is allowed to conduct road-side tests without cause.
      - alkonaut 7y ago
        Yeah I can’t even see any good arguments such as for why police shouldn’t be able to breath test any driver.
      - teh_klev 7y ago
        The roadside checks themselves are random as they aren't announced to the public, or if they are they're posted somewhere that's non-obvious. What comes afterwards when pulled over at one of these stops is inevitably a check to see if you've been drinking. I'm not saying this is fair or in the spirit of the law, but it's how they do this, and they're random enough.

mytailorisrich 7y ago

In the UK if you fail a road-side test you'll be arrested and the police will conduct 2 further tests with another equipment as soon as you get to the police station. The lower reading of these two tests is kept. Interestingly, Police cannot demand a road-side breath test without cause.

alkonaut 7y ago
So police do no random road-side breath tests in the UK? Almost every time I have done the breath test (ten times or so) it has been in checkpoint tests where a dozen officers breath test every single driver during a few hours.
- teh_klev 7y ago
  In the UK they certainly do. There's usually a campaign around the christmas season. But it's carried out under the guise as a general vehicle checkpoint. When stopped the officer will speak to the driver and then if they have "good reason" to suspect you've been drinking can insist on a portable breathalyser test. This reddit comment sums things up reasonably well: https://www.reddit.com/r/policeuk/comments/803y16/drink_drive_checkpoints_in_the_uk/dustr0o https://www.reddit.com/r/policeuk/comments/803y16/drink_driv...
  - mytailorisrich 7y ago
    That's not random testing since they have to establish cause, as that Reddit comment explains. Of course the Police may ask and many people will not know that they are not compelled to accept without cause, or they don't want to argue. In some countries the police is allowed to conduct road-side tests without cause.
    - alkonaut 7y ago
      Yeah I can’t even see any good arguments such as for why police shouldn’t be able to breath test any driver.
    - teh_klev 7y ago
      The roadside checks themselves are random as they aren't announced to the public, or if they are they're posted somewhere that's non-obvious. What comes afterwards when pulled over at one of these stops is inevitably a check to see if you've been drinking. I'm not saying this is fair or in the spirit of the law, but it's how they do this, and they're random enough.