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> However high dpi is hell to configure, still not happy with it. You should check out the Wayland session. They have fractional scaling working perfectly ther

> However high dpi is hell to configure, still not happy with it. You should check out the Wayland session. They have fractional scaling working perfectly there

scrollaway 7y ago
Yeah X11 is unusable with HiDPI. Works great on Wayland.
- jcelerier 7y ago
  typing this from a 4k screen under X11, everything looks fine... https://imgur.com/tyXOG0X https://imgur.com/tyXOG0X
  - scrollaway 7y ago
    Maybe because you got used to it. There's a bunch of awful scaling issues with that screenshot. The taskbar is unusable, a bunch of icons in your music player are wrongly scaled, and there's a bunch of text layout brokenness. I also suspect you've had to configure things quite a bit to reach this layout. I see for example your zoom-level is non-default in Chrome. I had to do the same when I was using X11 with a 3.8k screen. And it still sucks. Wayland makes the scaling seamless and perfect for all native apps.
    - jcelerier 7y ago
      > Maybe because you got used to it. There's a bunch of awful scaling issues with that screenshot. The taskbar is unusable, a bunch of icons in your music player are wrongly scaled, and there's a bunch of text layout brokenness. could you detail ? the taskbar is exactly at the right size for me. The only thing I see that is blatantly bad is the text on the left sidebar of the media player. > I also suspect you've had to configure things quite a bit to reach this layout The only thing I do is setting Xft.dpi = 144 in my .Xresources. > I see for example your zoom-level is non-default in Chrome. that is because I keep playing with my middle button when I'm reading :) before taking the screenshot I had it at 250%
      - raphi011 7y ago
        Hi - I've tried this on my machine with 4K display running Plasma Wayland but unfortunately my xwayland programs are still blurry. Was this really the only thing you've done? EDIT: just realized that you're not using wayland ..
        jcelerier 7y ago
        yes, and plasma neither - it has its own scaling method which does not use xft.dpi afaik
jhoechtl 7y ago
> They have fractional scaling working perfectly there Hear, hear! So you are not using firefox? All the XWayland apps are blurry. KDE/Plasma apps are crisp. But to be fair, Gnome had experimental fractional scaling on Wayland two years ago.

> However high dpi is hell to configure, still not happy with it. You should check out the Wayland session. They have fractional scaling working perfectly there

scrollaway 7y ago

Yeah X11 is unusable with HiDPI. Works great on Wayland.

jcelerier 7y ago
typing this from a 4k screen under X11, everything looks fine... https://imgur.com/tyXOG0X https://imgur.com/tyXOG0X
- scrollaway 7y ago
  Maybe because you got used to it. There's a bunch of awful scaling issues with that screenshot. The taskbar is unusable, a bunch of icons in your music player are wrongly scaled, and there's a bunch of text layout brokenness. I also suspect you've had to configure things quite a bit to reach this layout. I see for example your zoom-level is non-default in Chrome. I had to do the same when I was using X11 with a 3.8k screen. And it still sucks. Wayland makes the scaling seamless and perfect for all native apps.
  - jcelerier 7y ago
    > Maybe because you got used to it. There's a bunch of awful scaling issues with that screenshot. The taskbar is unusable, a bunch of icons in your music player are wrongly scaled, and there's a bunch of text layout brokenness. could you detail ? the taskbar is exactly at the right size for me. The only thing I see that is blatantly bad is the text on the left sidebar of the media player. > I also suspect you've had to configure things quite a bit to reach this layout The only thing I do is setting Xft.dpi = 144 in my .Xresources. > I see for example your zoom-level is non-default in Chrome. that is because I keep playing with my middle button when I'm reading :) before taking the screenshot I had it at 250%
    - raphi011 7y ago
      Hi - I've tried this on my machine with 4K display running Plasma Wayland but unfortunately my xwayland programs are still blurry. Was this really the only thing you've done? EDIT: just realized that you're not using wayland ..
      - jcelerier 7y ago
        yes, and plasma neither - it has its own scaling method which does not use xft.dpi afaik

jhoechtl 7y ago

> They have fractional scaling working perfectly there Hear, hear! So you are not using firefox? All the XWayland apps are blurry. KDE/Plasma apps are crisp. But to be fair, Gnome had experimental fractional scaling on Wayland two years ago.