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Arguing about DST vs standard time seems ridiculous to me because your longitude relative to the edge of the timezone can add/subtract an hour either way. All

Arguing about DST vs standard time seems ridiculous to me because your longitude relative to the edge of the timezone can add/subtract an hour either way. All these subjective opinion posts about the sun being up or down in the morning/evening depend entirely on where in your timezone you live. This map summarizes the situation: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pY-JErG4--/pudlqxmpencwr5zajzbz.png http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pY-JErG4... Ironically, even though Canada invented time zones, almost the entire country is in the wrong timezone save for Montreal/Ottawa. Only people living in the white sections are actually in the middle of their timezone where standard time would be accurate. And if you don't like the sun setting early, you could even move to one of the red sections or vice versa.

steanne 7y ago
agreed, but... https://old.reddit.com/r/MapsWithoutNZ/ https://old.reddit.com/r/MapsWithoutNZ/
leecb 7y ago
Unfortunately your map has cropped out several countries, included where I live. Do you have a copy that has Fiji, Tonga, Samoa, New Zealand, New Caledonia, etc?
zeroonetwothree 7y ago
CA confirmed the best
zamadatix 7y ago
Here is a similar with NZ and friends so we can all focus on what the comment is saying instead repeating how 0.1% of the world's population isn't in the image: http://blog.poormansmath.net/images/SolarTimeVsStandardTimeV2.png http://blog.poormansmath.net/images/SolarTimeVsStandardTimeV... I agree that we've let "what time is it" get conflated with too many other things - I'm not even sure time zones are the best answer for what people are actually looking for. Having the same time to reference across a region is best handled by UTC, it's the same everywhere. When do people in a region want to wake up and start work or how long do they want light in the afternoon? Depends how long people in that region work, how far off the equator they are & what time of year it is, and what their personal preference is. Trying to solve all of these things with zones drawn and changed in a chaotic fashion (not always in the same 1 hour increment either) overlaid with offsets of that time drawn and changed in an equally chaotic fashion seems like the worst of all options. None of these things have anything to do with what the referenced number on the clock is, we've only created more problems by trying to solve it by changing the number on the clock and it hasn't made anyone agree anymore than they did before.
- ClumsyPilot 7y ago
  Indeed, the proper solution is to work with business hours, which you can vary city by city of you so please.

steanne 7y ago

agreed, but... https://old.reddit.com/r/MapsWithoutNZ/ https://old.reddit.com/r/MapsWithoutNZ/

leecb 7y ago

Unfortunately your map has cropped out several countries, included where I live. Do you have a copy that has Fiji, Tonga, Samoa, New Zealand, New Caledonia, etc?

zeroonetwothree 7y ago

CA confirmed the best

zamadatix 7y ago

Here is a similar with NZ and friends so we can all focus on what the comment is saying instead repeating how 0.1% of the world's population isn't in the image: http://blog.poormansmath.net/images/SolarTimeVsStandardTimeV2.png http://blog.poormansmath.net/images/SolarTimeVsStandardTimeV... I agree that we've let "what time is it" get conflated with too many other things - I'm not even sure time zones are the best answer for what people are actually looking for. Having the same time to reference across a region is best handled by UTC, it's the same everywhere. When do people in a region want to wake up and start work or how long do they want light in the afternoon? Depends how long people in that region work, how far off the equator they are & what time of year it is, and what their personal preference is. Trying to solve all of these things with zones drawn and changed in a chaotic fashion (not always in the same 1 hour increment either) overlaid with offsets of that time drawn and changed in an equally chaotic fashion seems like the worst of all options. None of these things have anything to do with what the referenced number on the clock is, we've only created more problems by trying to solve it by changing the number on the clock and it hasn't made anyone agree anymore than they did before.

ClumsyPilot 7y ago
Indeed, the proper solution is to work with business hours, which you can vary city by city of you so please.