It seemed like you were characterizing alternative approaches in a way in which you could more easily refute their concerns. I'd be pleased as punch if we move

It seemed like you were characterizing alternative approaches in a way in which you could more easily refute their concerns. I'd be pleased as punch if we moved to a post-resource economy, but I also think it's going to be the hardest thing we've ever attempted (in an international sense). The Paris climate agreements are a minor skirmish on the scale of what needs to be done. Because, ultimately, we're talking about some wealthy countries having less (compared to business as usual) in order to strike agreement with poorer countries not to run their growth at full tilt. So when we say things like "stricter environmental regulations," we're really saying "stricter environmental regulations worldwide." Otherwise we're just offloading pollution to the current poorest country with a labor force. And it's going to take some serious financial and developmental persuasion (and ugly enforcement) to get someone to not do something that would make them better off. ... It is heartening to see the debate being reframed in justice terms. Because that seems to have a better chance of winning hearts and minds to the extent necessary.