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I meant Google in general. It’s yet another tiny step in a terrible direction. At this point I would love to legislate most of Google out of existence, personal

I meant Google in general. It’s yet another tiny step in a terrible direction. At this point I would love to legislate most of Google out of existence, personally.

xiphias2 7y ago
Google does lots of great things for people, so it looks to me like you're overreacting. Finding the right balance is important in regulation.
- journalctl 7y ago
  It’s important to keep in mind that imbalance goes both ways.
- ConceptJunkie 7y ago
  Google is unequivocally evil. It doesn't matter how much good they do when they are being evil.
jumbopapa 7y ago
I don't really buy using legislation. Alternatives exist and people don't seem to care to use them. That's the market at work.
- dessant 7y ago
  > I don't really buy using legislation. Alternatives exist and people don't seem to care to use them. Google is engaged in using its market dominance in one segment to gain or maintain dominance in others, while suppressing the competition. This is illegal behavior for which Google has been fined several times over the past few years. Just consider that in past Android versions there was a hard-coded Google search bar on the default home screen that you could not remove. Google has been forced to ask users and offer a set of alternative search engines on devices with recent Android versions. Same goes for Chrome and competing browsers [1]. Right now Google Search detects the Firefox for Android user agent and serves a second-tier search experience for Firefox users on Android. They have been doing this for the past 6 years [2]. [1] https://mashable.com/article/google-browser-search-engine-choice-eu/ https://mashable.com/article/google-browser-search-engine-ch... [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=975444 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=975444
  - scarface74 7y ago
    How is Google stopping users from using another search engine?
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- ConceptJunkie 7y ago
  Once you have monopoly power, the market can do little. Google has that power now.
  - hodgesrm 7y ago
    You mean like the power of yahoo/altavista back in the day?
    - ric2b 7y ago
      You mean like when the internet was small and being on top of yahoo/altavista search results was mostly irrelevant to your bottom line?

I meant Google in general. It’s yet another tiny step in a terrible direction. At this point I would love to legislate most of Google out of existence, personally.

xiphias2 7y ago

Google does lots of great things for people, so it looks to me like you're overreacting. Finding the right balance is important in regulation.

journalctl 7y ago
It’s important to keep in mind that imbalance goes both ways.
ConceptJunkie 7y ago
Google is unequivocally evil. It doesn't matter how much good they do when they are being evil.

jumbopapa 7y ago

I don't really buy using legislation. Alternatives exist and people don't seem to care to use them. That's the market at work.

dessant 7y ago
> I don't really buy using legislation. Alternatives exist and people don't seem to care to use them. Google is engaged in using its market dominance in one segment to gain or maintain dominance in others, while suppressing the competition. This is illegal behavior for which Google has been fined several times over the past few years. Just consider that in past Android versions there was a hard-coded Google search bar on the default home screen that you could not remove. Google has been forced to ask users and offer a set of alternative search engines on devices with recent Android versions. Same goes for Chrome and competing browsers [1]. Right now Google Search detects the Firefox for Android user agent and serves a second-tier search experience for Firefox users on Android. They have been doing this for the past 6 years [2]. [1] https://mashable.com/article/google-browser-search-engine-choice-eu/ https://mashable.com/article/google-browser-search-engine-ch... [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=975444 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=975444
- scarface74 7y ago
  How is Google stopping users from using another search engine?
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
ConceptJunkie 7y ago
Once you have monopoly power, the market can do little. Google has that power now.
- hodgesrm 7y ago
  You mean like the power of yahoo/altavista back in the day?
  - ric2b 7y ago
    You mean like when the internet was small and being on top of yahoo/altavista search results was mostly irrelevant to your bottom line?