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The Naval Gazing blog has a four-part series called "Why the Carriers Are Not Doomed" in which he makes the case: "Claims that US carriers are very vulnerable t

The Naval Gazing blog has a four-part series called "Why the Carriers Are Not Doomed" in which he makes the case: "Claims that US carriers are very vulnerable to missile attack, and will be sunk immediately in any upcoming war, are quite common. They’re also wrong. The carriers are surprisingly survivable, and the prowess of missiles is usually grossly exaggerated." I don't have the expertise to fully evaluate the arguments, but it's worth a read before you fully swallow the "carriers are pointless because of anti-ship missiles" line. https://navalgazing.obormot.net/Carrier-Doom-Part-1 https://navalgazing.obormot.net/Carrier-Doom-Part-1 https://navalgazing.obormot.net/Carrier-Doom-Part-2 https://navalgazing.obormot.net/Carrier-Doom-Part-2 https://navalgazing.obormot.net/Carrier-Doom-Part-3 https://navalgazing.obormot.net/Carrier-Doom-Part-3 https://navalgazing.obormot.net/Carrier-Doom-Part-4 https://navalgazing.obormot.net/Carrier-Doom-Part-4

nookyular 7y ago
Gee, that's pretty great, but a serious adversary armed with anti-ship missiles is going to use nuclear tipped warheads. When I say serious, I mean countries with proven nuclear capabilities. Not "limited war" with lesser proxy state dictator adversaries, already bludgeoned by economic sanctions. And, when I say nuclear tipped warheads, I mean as many as it takes to kill the vessel. Any sane military strategist is going to hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit the carrier either until it sinks or until everyone onboard and within ten miles is dead. Even if it takes a solid month of nuclear attacks to starve the crew to death, and melt the deck into slag. There aren't enough Nimitz class aircraft carriers in the world, NOT to use such tactics. EDIT: reading the articles, no mention is made of nuclear tipped anti-ship missiles. Probably because it's the article wouldn't be worth writing, if they openly acknowledged that angle, and thus would not generate ad revenue.
- NotSammyHagar 7y ago
  If someone attacks with nuclear missiles or torpedoes that's going to be the end of the world, and we are going to attack back with same. I don't think there will be 20 waves. I think there will be massive destruction and then just a few big ships left. But hopefully we'll never find out.
NotSammyHagar 7y ago
We've never seen real attacks with today's new generation hypersonic missiles, like the ones that China has. I'm sure they've tested. The time to react is so short, it seems like it will have at least some effect. When they are going miles a second how well will they be able to target? How quickly will the ships be able to start quick movement? I see it as at least a very possible threat. Send a hypersonic missile or 3 every hour and then a series of unmanned fighers like the stingray.

nookyular 7y ago

Gee, that's pretty great, but a serious adversary armed with anti-ship missiles is going to use nuclear tipped warheads. When I say serious, I mean countries with proven nuclear capabilities. Not "limited war" with lesser proxy state dictator adversaries, already bludgeoned by economic sanctions. And, when I say nuclear tipped warheads, I mean as many as it takes to kill the vessel. Any sane military strategist is going to hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit, and hit the carrier either until it sinks or until everyone onboard and within ten miles is dead. Even if it takes a solid month of nuclear attacks to starve the crew to death, and melt the deck into slag. There aren't enough Nimitz class aircraft carriers in the world, NOT to use such tactics. EDIT: reading the articles, no mention is made of nuclear tipped anti-ship missiles. Probably because it's the article wouldn't be worth writing, if they openly acknowledged that angle, and thus would not generate ad revenue.

NotSammyHagar 7y ago
If someone attacks with nuclear missiles or torpedoes that's going to be the end of the world, and we are going to attack back with same. I don't think there will be 20 waves. I think there will be massive destruction and then just a few big ships left. But hopefully we'll never find out.

NotSammyHagar 7y ago

We've never seen real attacks with today's new generation hypersonic missiles, like the ones that China has. I'm sure they've tested. The time to react is so short, it seems like it will have at least some effect. When they are going miles a second how well will they be able to target? How quickly will the ships be able to start quick movement? I see it as at least a very possible threat. Send a hypersonic missile or 3 every hour and then a series of unmanned fighers like the stingray.