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> “I actually agree with other commenters: Google just doesn't know what it's about anymore. It has no overriding vision.” it’s pretty apparent to me that afte

> “I actually agree with other commenters: Google just doesn't know what it's about anymore. It has no overriding vision.” it’s pretty apparent to me that after google finally got over wanting to be facebook, google now wants to be apple. and they’re desperately trying not to be microsoft, even though that’s what they mostly are. in the beginning, google had a unique identity (quirky & clever) and vision (organize the world’s information). now they look to others to figure out who to be. it’s like the small town high school football star who never moved on.

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paulddraper 7y ago
> small town high school football star That's odd thing to call the biggest software company* in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_software_companies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_software_c... * Alphabet
- dastbe 7y ago
  That wiki doesn't justify your statement. It's leveraging a list from 2017, but using Alphabet's market cap from 2019? And regardless, the actual market caps on that page would say Microsoft is the biggest software company in the world. I have no idea what Forbes is using for its ranking but it is obviously not by valuation. EDIT: And it should arguably be Apple, but for some reason neither Apple nor Amazon are software companies?
  - paulddraper 7y ago
    The Wikipedia article sorts by sales. Not sure why the years are like that, but the relative values are similar in 2019. [1] [2] > for some reason neither Apple nor Amazon are software companies? Because they aren't software companies? Or at least principally software companies. Amazon is categorized as an retail company. [3] Apple is categorized as a computer hardware company. [4] Nitpicking aside, I think my point stands about a $800B+ company. [1] https://www.forbes.com/companies/alphabet/?list=global2000#50408eaa540e https://www.forbes.com/companies/alphabet/?list=global2000#5... [2] https://www.forbes.com/companies/microsoft/?list=global2000#6ea1826773f7 https://www.forbes.com/companies/microsoft/?list=global2000#... [3] https://www.forbes.com/companies/amazon/?list=global2000#2c45161e6fb8 https://www.forbes.com/companies/amazon/?list=global2000#2c4... [3] https://www.forbes.com/companies/apple/?list=global2000#3d047b735355 https://www.forbes.com/companies/apple/?list=global2000#3d04...
  - scarface74 7y ago
    And market cap while it measures investor sentiment, doesn’t measure fundamentals. If it did, Uber wouldn’t be worth anything.
aaron_m04 7y ago
> and they’re desperately trying not to be microsoft, even though that’s what they mostly are. Mostly because Microsoft became more like Google in recent years. :P
- sundvor 7y ago
  You mean old Google? They're doing some seriously good things in the dev space.
  - runn1ng 7y ago
    and spamming users with ads left and right, Google style, too
    - sundvor 7y ago
      Hmm. In Chromium Edge, my new default browser, AFAIK the UO plugin will still work perfectly unlike in Chrome, meaning I rarely if ever see any ads. The closest thing to an ad in VSCode or for that matter Terminal would be .. I guess hints at ease of Azure cloud services? Never found it intrusive myself, and I do AWS.
      - twobat 7y ago
        It's hard to understand your message, but... ads in VSCode? Is that a thing now?
        sundvor 7y ago
        I was kind of trying to say I haven't seen any ads, just non-intrusive integration with other MS services, in response to the ads reply I got. Sorry that was actually rather vague and roundabout.
      - yusi-san 7y ago
        You can use VSCodium, it's a fork of VSCode without Microsoft's telemetry.

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paulddraper 7y ago

> small town high school football star That's odd thing to call the biggest software company* in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_software_companies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_software_c... * Alphabet

dastbe 7y ago
That wiki doesn't justify your statement. It's leveraging a list from 2017, but using Alphabet's market cap from 2019? And regardless, the actual market caps on that page would say Microsoft is the biggest software company in the world. I have no idea what Forbes is using for its ranking but it is obviously not by valuation. EDIT: And it should arguably be Apple, but for some reason neither Apple nor Amazon are software companies?
- paulddraper 7y ago
  The Wikipedia article sorts by sales. Not sure why the years are like that, but the relative values are similar in 2019. [1] [2] > for some reason neither Apple nor Amazon are software companies? Because they aren't software companies? Or at least principally software companies. Amazon is categorized as an retail company. [3] Apple is categorized as a computer hardware company. [4] Nitpicking aside, I think my point stands about a $800B+ company. [1] https://www.forbes.com/companies/alphabet/?list=global2000#50408eaa540e https://www.forbes.com/companies/alphabet/?list=global2000#5... [2] https://www.forbes.com/companies/microsoft/?list=global2000#6ea1826773f7 https://www.forbes.com/companies/microsoft/?list=global2000#... [3] https://www.forbes.com/companies/amazon/?list=global2000#2c45161e6fb8 https://www.forbes.com/companies/amazon/?list=global2000#2c4... [3] https://www.forbes.com/companies/apple/?list=global2000#3d047b735355 https://www.forbes.com/companies/apple/?list=global2000#3d04...
- scarface74 7y ago
  And market cap while it measures investor sentiment, doesn’t measure fundamentals. If it did, Uber wouldn’t be worth anything.

aaron_m04 7y ago

> and they’re desperately trying not to be microsoft, even though that’s what they mostly are. Mostly because Microsoft became more like Google in recent years. :P

sundvor 7y ago
You mean old Google? They're doing some seriously good things in the dev space.
- runn1ng 7y ago
  and spamming users with ads left and right, Google style, too
  - sundvor 7y ago
    Hmm. In Chromium Edge, my new default browser, AFAIK the UO plugin will still work perfectly unlike in Chrome, meaning I rarely if ever see any ads. The closest thing to an ad in VSCode or for that matter Terminal would be .. I guess hints at ease of Azure cloud services? Never found it intrusive myself, and I do AWS.
    - twobat 7y ago
      It's hard to understand your message, but... ads in VSCode? Is that a thing now?
      - sundvor 7y ago
        I was kind of trying to say I haven't seen any ads, just non-intrusive integration with other MS services, in response to the ads reply I got. Sorry that was actually rather vague and roundabout.
    - yusi-san 7y ago
      You can use VSCodium, it's a fork of VSCode without Microsoft's telemetry.