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taking something awful and making it less awful is different than making something good better. python is 2 is a good programming language by any standard , i

taking something awful and making it less awful is different than making something good better. python is 2 is a good programming language by any standard , i would like to see a fork of python 2 with emphasis on LTS and performance optimization. The whole reason why python became popular is because it had a very shallow learning curve. introducing new cryptic language features every year Is not going to make it easy for new comers. I can say with some certainty that no one is going to use a pure python implementation in production(atleast not yet).

hsaliak 7y ago
pypy is going to continue supporting python 2 indefinitely. They focus on that LTS release and care about performance.
- elisharobinson 7y ago
  its been a long time since i used it . is it stable ? it anyone using it in prod ? does it have a decent packaging solution ?
  - eesmith 7y ago
    Yes, it's stable. Yes, people are using it in production. (Examples at https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/bv50uz/is_anyone_using_pypy_on_production/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/bv50uz/is_anyone_us... ). Is 'pip' a decent enough packaging solution?
    - elisharobinson 7y ago
      cool i will check it out then .
inglor 7y ago
I absolutely agree with this sentiment and seeing Python move further and further from "There should be one obvious way to do it" scares me. I totally get why you'd want a language with async iterators and typings and why you'd want a language with easy data science interop and easy CPU - I am just not sure they should be the same language and I think it should be possible to learn how to do one (e.g. data science) without the other (high throughput async programming, typings etc). I really hope the smart people behind the helm have the foresight to discuss the implications of language size. As someone involved in the process in JavaScript both as Node core and as an individual this deeply concerns me there as well.

hsaliak 7y ago

pypy is going to continue supporting python 2 indefinitely. They focus on that LTS release and care about performance.

elisharobinson 7y ago
its been a long time since i used it . is it stable ? it anyone using it in prod ? does it have a decent packaging solution ?
- eesmith 7y ago
  Yes, it's stable. Yes, people are using it in production. (Examples at https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/bv50uz/is_anyone_using_pypy_on_production/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/bv50uz/is_anyone_us... ). Is 'pip' a decent enough packaging solution?
  - elisharobinson 7y ago
    cool i will check it out then .

inglor 7y ago

I absolutely agree with this sentiment and seeing Python move further and further from "There should be one obvious way to do it" scares me. I totally get why you'd want a language with async iterators and typings and why you'd want a language with easy data science interop and easy CPU - I am just not sure they should be the same language and I think it should be possible to learn how to do one (e.g. data science) without the other (high throughput async programming, typings etc). I really hope the smart people behind the helm have the foresight to discuss the implications of language size. As someone involved in the process in JavaScript both as Node core and as an individual this deeply concerns me there as well.