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Seems like the survey was HEAVILY weighted to learn about how people use python for web / big data / cloud. As an embedded stick-in-the-mud Python2 developer,

Seems like the survey was HEAVILY weighted to learn about how people use python for web / big data / cloud. As an embedded stick-in-the-mud Python2 developer, I'm mildly frustrated. It seems that the python community has been taken over by people trying to compete with NodeJS. Other use cases exist!

toyg 7y ago
That’s uncharitable and, if I may, a bit of a projection maybe. JetBrains runs this poll every year. You can check results and questions for previous years. The trends are pretty clear (if naturally skewed towards people who will answer a web poll, i.e. “web people”). The fact of the matter is simply that Py3 has established itself as the main version of the language, and that datascience and web are two sectors where Python usage is currently ballooning. It may or may not stay that way in the future, but that’s how it is at the moment.
scaryclam 7y ago
It's a bit of a shame you're being voted down I think. I use python for a lot of web work, but just as much non-web applications work and felt that the survey was missing a lot of other options.
wil421 7y ago
Flask is what got me interested in Python, I consider my self a web dev. When I was starting with a Raspberry Pi project I was just going to work with examples and tweak them to my needs. After going through a simple Flask Blog course on YouTube, I decided to pick up a book, learn the basic of Python first, and then come back to my original project. The syntax and zen philosophy have me hooked.
pjmlp 7y ago
Actually Python was there first. https://www.zope.org/ https://www.zope.org/ Probably the biggest reason to use Python back in early 2000's.
paulddraper 7y ago
I learned Python in 2011 for a Django project. > embedded stick-in-the-mud Python2 developer Python (CPython) is also getting crowded out on the low-end thanks to native languages getting easier: Rust, Go, even modern C++.
- bjt2n3904 7y ago
  I've been putting off learning Rust. From everything I read about the two, I like rust more than go -- but I'm not fond of the massive binary size. I'm also not fond of the nodejs style "download another copy of these 300 microlibraries and compile them all".

toyg 7y ago

That’s uncharitable and, if I may, a bit of a projection maybe. JetBrains runs this poll every year. You can check results and questions for previous years. The trends are pretty clear (if naturally skewed towards people who will answer a web poll, i.e. “web people”). The fact of the matter is simply that Py3 has established itself as the main version of the language, and that datascience and web are two sectors where Python usage is currently ballooning. It may or may not stay that way in the future, but that’s how it is at the moment.

scaryclam 7y ago

It's a bit of a shame you're being voted down I think. I use python for a lot of web work, but just as much non-web applications work and felt that the survey was missing a lot of other options.

wil421 7y ago

Flask is what got me interested in Python, I consider my self a web dev. When I was starting with a Raspberry Pi project I was just going to work with examples and tweak them to my needs. After going through a simple Flask Blog course on YouTube, I decided to pick up a book, learn the basic of Python first, and then come back to my original project. The syntax and zen philosophy have me hooked.

pjmlp 7y ago

Actually Python was there first. https://www.zope.org/ https://www.zope.org/ Probably the biggest reason to use Python back in early 2000's.

paulddraper 7y ago

I learned Python in 2011 for a Django project. > embedded stick-in-the-mud Python2 developer Python (CPython) is also getting crowded out on the low-end thanks to native languages getting easier: Rust, Go, even modern C++.

bjt2n3904 7y ago
I've been putting off learning Rust. From everything I read about the two, I like rust more than go -- but I'm not fond of the massive binary size. I'm also not fond of the nodejs style "download another copy of these 300 microlibraries and compile them all".