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I think the point you're missing is everyone levels up. Even amateur fitness users want a better fitness wearable. Which is why Garmin and Apple have the lion's

I think the point you're missing is everyone levels up. Even amateur fitness users want a better fitness wearable. Which is why Garmin and Apple have the lion's share of the market. Fitbit is still seen as a step tracker level device, even if they do more. Garmin wearables are laser focused to the workout market and most buyers seem to lust over the idea of needing a more capable fitness device. Garmin and Apple both cover "fitness amateur" in spades but do an upsell far better. With regard to AI, I'm not trying to be flippant but, those users don't care. No amateur fitness users would even understand how that would apply and likely be less to care than selling predictive analysis to those working out who legitimately track vitals and are trying to shave seconds.

qzx_pierri 7y ago
Apple Watch battery lasts a day at most. My Fitbit can go without a charge for 6 days. Fitbit offers sleep tracking.. Apple Watch doesn’t natively, and even if it did, you still have to charge it at night. Fitbits are more minimalistic. They’re so nice. I don’t want a Garmin wearable. A lot of people who use Fitbits don’t use them for the fitness aspect. We use them to avoid the sedentary lifestyle by viewing our steps, and occasionally going on a run. I hope Google doesn’t ruin Fitbit. But judging by their past moves, my Charge 3 will be useless in a matter of 2-3 years
- bruddamane 7y ago
  I much prefer my Apple Watch over my shitty fitbit to be honest. Charging isn’t an issue. I only charge it in the morning when I’m getting ready and that’s enough to last me the whole day and through the night.
- machinecoffee 7y ago
  >Apple Watch doesn’t natively, and even if it did, you still have to charge it at night The way around that is to charge it earlier in the evening before bed - I do that and it lasts me easily until the following evening. But it's a shame the device doesn't cover sleep natively.
  - callalex 7y ago
    You may like AutoSleep. It gets darn close to feeling native.
  - broknbottle 7y ago
    It does sleep analysis natively. You just need to enable a bed time and it’ll track it. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208655 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208655
- mlrtime 7y ago
  This, I want the basics, not another phone on my wrist. The charge 3 lasts me 10 days and charges in about 15 minutes. I don't want another device to charge daily.
- martyvis 7y ago
  All that as well as the great GPS capability. I have the Fitbit Ionic and start the Walk exercise when bushwalking ( hiking). It produces very accurate track logs that I can use for mapping when I return. It does consume more battery but far less than high rate logging on the phone
charles_f 7y ago
> Which is why Garmin and Apple have the lion's share of the market Source? A simple search for "fitbit garmin market share" [0] seem to suggest that Garmin is ways behind Fitbit in adoption. [0] https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/09/08/fitbit-loses-more-market-share-to-apple-and-xiaomi.aspx https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/09/08/fitbit-loses-more-...

qzx_pierri 7y ago

Apple Watch battery lasts a day at most. My Fitbit can go without a charge for 6 days. Fitbit offers sleep tracking.. Apple Watch doesn’t natively, and even if it did, you still have to charge it at night. Fitbits are more minimalistic. They’re so nice. I don’t want a Garmin wearable. A lot of people who use Fitbits don’t use them for the fitness aspect. We use them to avoid the sedentary lifestyle by viewing our steps, and occasionally going on a run. I hope Google doesn’t ruin Fitbit. But judging by their past moves, my Charge 3 will be useless in a matter of 2-3 years

bruddamane 7y ago
I much prefer my Apple Watch over my shitty fitbit to be honest. Charging isn’t an issue. I only charge it in the morning when I’m getting ready and that’s enough to last me the whole day and through the night.
machinecoffee 7y ago
>Apple Watch doesn’t natively, and even if it did, you still have to charge it at night The way around that is to charge it earlier in the evening before bed - I do that and it lasts me easily until the following evening. But it's a shame the device doesn't cover sleep natively.
- callalex 7y ago
  You may like AutoSleep. It gets darn close to feeling native.
- broknbottle 7y ago
  It does sleep analysis natively. You just need to enable a bed time and it’ll track it. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208655 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208655
mlrtime 7y ago
This, I want the basics, not another phone on my wrist. The charge 3 lasts me 10 days and charges in about 15 minutes. I don't want another device to charge daily.
martyvis 7y ago
All that as well as the great GPS capability. I have the Fitbit Ionic and start the Walk exercise when bushwalking ( hiking). It produces very accurate track logs that I can use for mapping when I return. It does consume more battery but far less than high rate logging on the phone

charles_f 7y ago

> Which is why Garmin and Apple have the lion's share of the market Source? A simple search for "fitbit garmin market share" [0] seem to suggest that Garmin is ways behind Fitbit in adoption. [0] https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/09/08/fitbit-loses-more-market-share-to-apple-and-xiaomi.aspx https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/09/08/fitbit-loses-more-...