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I have no problem there, people are very friendly on every reddit sub I enjoy visiting. The same is for twitter. What those platforms have in common is choice.

I have no problem there, people are very friendly on every reddit sub I enjoy visiting. The same is for twitter. What those platforms have in common is choice. If you are toxic and think it is fine to openly argue and make socially awkward comments the whole time, then you will view it that way. You will likely also get attracted by subs and communities that this happens.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
>I have no problem there, people are very friendly on every reddit sub I enjoy visiting. The same is for twitter. The only way to have a good time on those platforms and to a lesser (but increasing, in my unscientific observation) degree, HN is to only express opinions that toe the party line (party line being relative to whatever the mainstream opinion is on the platform or subset of it in question). Those platforms have features designed to amplify consensus and quash dissent.
- tomp 7y ago
  or not care about downvotes
  - AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
    But why would you post if you don't care about people's reaction to your message?
    - humanrebar 7y ago
      You can care about how some people react without overvaluing the aggregate reaction.
- AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
  It's good you mentioned HN. I also find it to be an extremely reasonable forum. Radical opinions pop up every once in a while, but somehow they still manage to cause little outrage and hatred. Kudos to the team (and all of us too!)
  - non-entity 7y ago
    > Radical opinions pop up every once in a while Is it just me, or are they becoming more common. I could have sworn when I browsed HN several years back there was next to non of it, but theres a good chance I'm just remembering incorrectly
    - dsfyu404ed 7y ago
      The number greyed out comments at the bottom is defiantly increased. I'm not sure if that's because there's more extremists or because people are less tolerant of the minority viewpoint or more willing to down-vote low effort jokes than previously. We definitely have more obvious bots that post walls of propaganda interspersed with links to sources of questionable reliability. The biggest thing I've noticed is that recently (like 6mo or less) people are much more likely to down-vote every recent comment in your history if you say something that offends the median ideology. This used to Never(TM) happen but now it seems like even the most minor affront to someone's world view triggers it.
      - dsfyu404ed 7y ago
        >The biggest thing I've noticed is that recently (like 6mo or less) people are much more likely to down-vote every recent comment in your history if you say something that offends the median ideology. This used to Never(TM) happen but now it seems like even the most minor affront to someone's world view triggers it. Case in point my comment about working hours in a totally different thread that was apparently offensive to the average. Literally everything else I said today had a couple up-votes until I dropped that one now they're all negative and that one's very negative. I'm not particularly distraught because the internet is full of idiots but it's kind of annoying when they try to silence your opinion on a bunch of topics not related to the one they disagree with you on.
merpnderp 7y ago
You must be incredibly lucky, as I carefully curated my Twitter feed to a few scientists and some baseball figures and was still overwhelmed at the hate and awfulness on display. Twitter is for the hateful and gleefully cruel.
EasyTiger_ 7y ago
I follow a large number of web developers, male and female on Twitter. I see a lot of complaints about men in general from women - some of it fair, some of it nasty. One dev in particular regularly rage tweets about men and makes the point her tweets are aimed at every single man - including those who are generally nice people and respectful towards women. Reading Twitter just makes me feel depressed some days, being constantly reminded that because I’m white and male I’m actually a fucking scumbag
- krapp 7y ago
  >Reading Twitter just makes me feel depressed some days, being constantly reminded that because I’m white and male I’m actually a fucking scumbag. You should do what everyone else gets told to do when they complain about being harassed on the internet - simply ignore it.
everdrive 7y ago
I'm not sure Twitter and Reddit are equivalent here. There are plenty of really great subreddits. It's pretty easy to avoid the ones you don't like. You can stick to a political silo for sure, but also (and more ideally) you can just stick to an interest group that stays on topic but doesn't talk about politics. (if you take this approach, there will be many subreddits that are off limits, but you'll also avoid much outrage and addiction.) Twitter is much more of a free-for-all. There's a much greater chance of politics and general public reaching you on Twitter.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

>I have no problem there, people are very friendly on every reddit sub I enjoy visiting. The same is for twitter. The only way to have a good time on those platforms and to a lesser (but increasing, in my unscientific observation) degree, HN is to only express opinions that toe the party line (party line being relative to whatever the mainstream opinion is on the platform or subset of it in question). Those platforms have features designed to amplify consensus and quash dissent.

tomp 7y ago
or not care about downvotes
- AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
  But why would you post if you don't care about people's reaction to your message?
  - humanrebar 7y ago
    You can care about how some people react without overvaluing the aggregate reaction.
AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
It's good you mentioned HN. I also find it to be an extremely reasonable forum. Radical opinions pop up every once in a while, but somehow they still manage to cause little outrage and hatred. Kudos to the team (and all of us too!)
- non-entity 7y ago
  > Radical opinions pop up every once in a while Is it just me, or are they becoming more common. I could have sworn when I browsed HN several years back there was next to non of it, but theres a good chance I'm just remembering incorrectly
  - dsfyu404ed 7y ago
    The number greyed out comments at the bottom is defiantly increased. I'm not sure if that's because there's more extremists or because people are less tolerant of the minority viewpoint or more willing to down-vote low effort jokes than previously. We definitely have more obvious bots that post walls of propaganda interspersed with links to sources of questionable reliability. The biggest thing I've noticed is that recently (like 6mo or less) people are much more likely to down-vote every recent comment in your history if you say something that offends the median ideology. This used to Never(TM) happen but now it seems like even the most minor affront to someone's world view triggers it.
    - dsfyu404ed 7y ago
      >The biggest thing I've noticed is that recently (like 6mo or less) people are much more likely to down-vote every recent comment in your history if you say something that offends the median ideology. This used to Never(TM) happen but now it seems like even the most minor affront to someone's world view triggers it. Case in point my comment about working hours in a totally different thread that was apparently offensive to the average. Literally everything else I said today had a couple up-votes until I dropped that one now they're all negative and that one's very negative. I'm not particularly distraught because the internet is full of idiots but it's kind of annoying when they try to silence your opinion on a bunch of topics not related to the one they disagree with you on.

merpnderp 7y ago

You must be incredibly lucky, as I carefully curated my Twitter feed to a few scientists and some baseball figures and was still overwhelmed at the hate and awfulness on display. Twitter is for the hateful and gleefully cruel.

EasyTiger_ 7y ago

I follow a large number of web developers, male and female on Twitter. I see a lot of complaints about men in general from women - some of it fair, some of it nasty. One dev in particular regularly rage tweets about men and makes the point her tweets are aimed at every single man - including those who are generally nice people and respectful towards women. Reading Twitter just makes me feel depressed some days, being constantly reminded that because I’m white and male I’m actually a fucking scumbag

krapp 7y ago
>Reading Twitter just makes me feel depressed some days, being constantly reminded that because I’m white and male I’m actually a fucking scumbag. You should do what everyone else gets told to do when they complain about being harassed on the internet - simply ignore it.

everdrive 7y ago

I'm not sure Twitter and Reddit are equivalent here. There are plenty of really great subreddits. It's pretty easy to avoid the ones you don't like. You can stick to a political silo for sure, but also (and more ideally) you can just stick to an interest group that stays on topic but doesn't talk about politics. (if you take this approach, there will be many subreddits that are off limits, but you'll also avoid much outrage and addiction.) Twitter is much more of a free-for-all. There's a much greater chance of politics and general public reaching you on Twitter.