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Steve Jobs Is Dead

41 points by heshiebee 7y ago

sschueller 7y ago
Everyone gets their twitter account suspended if they don't confirm their email address. It is not some conspiracy against you.
- vidarh 7y ago
  There's a substantial difference between a normal suspension that is "routine" and can get lifted automatically and quickly, vs. being told you're suspended permanently, can't appeal, and isn't allowed to try to register new accounts.
- tazard 7y ago
  I don't know anything about the article, but I know Twitter suspended my account immediately after confirming my email and following 1 person. I appealed and they restored it, I logged in and they immediately suspended my account again with no explanation. I don't think it's a conspiracy, just that their automated bots can be trolls
not_a_cop75 7y ago
Twitter and Facebook, without government intervention have naturally become the influencing platforms of choice for those with the most lucre. Having enemies banned is such an opaque process that nobody can tell if there was a payoff for a ban or not. Changes are never well explained. If either was a government system, complete suspension would be required to take place with a forensic analysis showing inadequacies, vulnerabilities, and hacks. Then after those were addressed the systems would be restored with documented and known procedures and processes for these things. But for Twitter and Facebook, it's all business as usual. Everyone knows they are both corrupt to the core.
ahbyb 7y ago
Is that a screenshot from iPhone where it says "5G"? I thought no iPhones supported 5G at all yet. What's going on?
- maxaf 7y ago
  It's not really 5G; just an AT&T marketing gimmick. https://www.tomsguide.com/us/5ge-explained,news-29329.html https://www.tomsguide.com/us/5ge-explained,news-29329.html
- mdszy 7y ago
  It's a marketing ploy by AT&T to label some kind of slightly better (maybe?) 4G as 5G, kinda like when phones started to say 4G which didn't mean 4G LTE.
- MatekCopatek 7y ago
  AFAIK this is deceptive marketing from AT&T: https://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-on-att-now-show-5g-e-symbol-what-it-means-2019-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-on-att-now-show-5g-e...
ChrisSD 7y ago
The title is pure click bait.
- Zhyl 7y ago
  Yep, would recommend mods rename it to something like "My Twitter account was banned due to Short selling trolls" or something that actually described what the article is about.
- BoorishBears 7y ago
  I like that one of the suspensions the author complains about was for impersonation... then they prove why Twitter was absolutely right to call out their "satirical" impersonation with such a clickbait title
- dariusj18 7y ago
  It seemed to to me to be an obvious foreshadow to a punchline.
Traster 7y ago
Does anyone know if this guy was actually genuinely debunking Tesla myths? Or was this just another guy crazily fighting on one side of a seemingly ridiculous twitter fight?
- new_realist 7y ago
  He was one of many of Elon Musk’s astroturfing accounts; just propaganda, nothing more.
ecmascript 7y ago
You get suspended for simply not giving up your phone number. You get demoted / get the checkmark removed for being a popular right wing individual. You get suspended for saying the scientific truth that there is only two human genders. You get suspended for basically everything that is not what Twitter / classic woke culture believe. Why would you assume they would not suspend you? Just realize Twitter is a garbage company and move on to another service.
z92 7y ago
Using a display name like "Steve Jobs" makes it look like a troll account, misleading at the least, getting blocked isn't that much surprising. You have to restart without trying to get a boost using popular figure's name or photo.
- andy_ppp 7y ago
  I think in this case it's obviously a joke, because, you know... Steve Jobs is Dead.
prepend 7y ago
The most insidious part of this is that it’s so boring. That means people can rules lawyer to precipitate bans and unless there’s some high profile person, I find it hard to maintain interest through all the details.
awinder 7y ago
"I started the @tesla_truth Twitter handle on November 27, 2018 to refute the disinformation campaign orchestrated by a group of Tesla short sellers who called themselves “$TSLAQ”, noting their intent to bankrupt the company in order to make money betting against the stock." 1. This is a truly bizarre take on what shorting is, but Musk describes shorting in a similar way, so I guess it's not surprising that a fanboy ate it up. 2. You don't need a disinformation campaign to short Tesla. You can be a long Tesla shareholder and that is A-OK. You can also look at Tesla's valuation & current financials and think holy moly, what are these people smoking. Welcome to the free market, where we collectively price things based on the interplay between these 2 groups. 3. I can guarantee you that only some statistically insignificant number of shorters care if Tesla goes bankrupt or not. They, in their judgement, see a market opportunity where Tesla is overpriced, and they're calling it. Some of these people might be Tesla owners or fans, who cares. Then the rest of the article is just a general screed / immature clickbait stuff (like, I don't know, putting "Steve Jobs is Dead" for clicks or whatever). People need to grow up.
- edf13 7y ago
  Exactly this - sounds like he wound up the other guy enough for him to constantly click spam on each of his tweets. Naming his account as he did made it easy for Twitter to ban him
- jevgeni 7y ago
  Obviously all of this is kind of wrong. Short-term prices aren't driven by fundamentals, but by rumors/sentiment/herding. So thinking that a bunch of short sellers might orchestrate a rumor campaign against a volatile stock isn't much of a stretch. I wouldn't hark on the bankruptcy semantics. Obviously, the original statement doesn't necessarily mean that the bankruptcy will be the result of short selling.
  - Nerdfest 7y ago
    This kind of thing is done on occasion. I remember the same being done to Newbridge at the start of the tech bubble, including short-sellers arranging damaging interviews with people who claimed they were executives with the company. It's far easier now with social media. It's not just Tesla either Facebook, and I believe Microsoft as well were caught paying for entities to harm Google's reputation. There are vast amounts of money involved.
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jevgeni 7y ago
Interesting article. Title needs changing, but flagging seems unnecessary.

41 points by heshiebee 7y ago

Everyone gets their twitter account suspended if they don't confirm their email address. It is not some conspiracy against you.

vidarh 7y ago
There's a substantial difference between a normal suspension that is "routine" and can get lifted automatically and quickly, vs. being told you're suspended permanently, can't appeal, and isn't allowed to try to register new accounts.
tazard 7y ago
I don't know anything about the article, but I know Twitter suspended my account immediately after confirming my email and following 1 person. I appealed and they restored it, I logged in and they immediately suspended my account again with no explanation. I don't think it's a conspiracy, just that their automated bots can be trolls

not_a_cop75 7y ago

Twitter and Facebook, without government intervention have naturally become the influencing platforms of choice for those with the most lucre. Having enemies banned is such an opaque process that nobody can tell if there was a payoff for a ban or not. Changes are never well explained. If either was a government system, complete suspension would be required to take place with a forensic analysis showing inadequacies, vulnerabilities, and hacks. Then after those were addressed the systems would be restored with documented and known procedures and processes for these things. But for Twitter and Facebook, it's all business as usual. Everyone knows they are both corrupt to the core.

ahbyb 7y ago

Is that a screenshot from iPhone where it says "5G"? I thought no iPhones supported 5G at all yet. What's going on?

maxaf 7y ago
It's not really 5G; just an AT&T marketing gimmick. https://www.tomsguide.com/us/5ge-explained,news-29329.html https://www.tomsguide.com/us/5ge-explained,news-29329.html
mdszy 7y ago
It's a marketing ploy by AT&T to label some kind of slightly better (maybe?) 4G as 5G, kinda like when phones started to say 4G which didn't mean 4G LTE.
MatekCopatek 7y ago
AFAIK this is deceptive marketing from AT&T: https://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-on-att-now-show-5g-e-symbol-what-it-means-2019-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-on-att-now-show-5g-e...

ChrisSD 7y ago

The title is pure click bait.

Zhyl 7y ago
Yep, would recommend mods rename it to something like "My Twitter account was banned due to Short selling trolls" or something that actually described what the article is about.
BoorishBears 7y ago
I like that one of the suspensions the author complains about was for impersonation... then they prove why Twitter was absolutely right to call out their "satirical" impersonation with such a clickbait title
dariusj18 7y ago
It seemed to to me to be an obvious foreshadow to a punchline.

Traster 7y ago

Does anyone know if this guy was actually genuinely debunking Tesla myths? Or was this just another guy crazily fighting on one side of a seemingly ridiculous twitter fight?

new_realist 7y ago
He was one of many of Elon Musk’s astroturfing accounts; just propaganda, nothing more.

ecmascript 7y ago

You get suspended for simply not giving up your phone number. You get demoted / get the checkmark removed for being a popular right wing individual. You get suspended for saying the scientific truth that there is only two human genders. You get suspended for basically everything that is not what Twitter / classic woke culture believe. Why would you assume they would not suspend you? Just realize Twitter is a garbage company and move on to another service.

z92 7y ago

Using a display name like "Steve Jobs" makes it look like a troll account, misleading at the least, getting blocked isn't that much surprising. You have to restart without trying to get a boost using popular figure's name or photo.

andy_ppp 7y ago
I think in this case it's obviously a joke, because, you know... Steve Jobs is Dead.

prepend 7y ago

The most insidious part of this is that it’s so boring. That means people can rules lawyer to precipitate bans and unless there’s some high profile person, I find it hard to maintain interest through all the details.

awinder 7y ago

"I started the @tesla_truth Twitter handle on November 27, 2018 to refute the disinformation campaign orchestrated by a group of Tesla short sellers who called themselves “$TSLAQ”, noting their intent to bankrupt the company in order to make money betting against the stock." 1. This is a truly bizarre take on what shorting is, but Musk describes shorting in a similar way, so I guess it's not surprising that a fanboy ate it up. 2. You don't need a disinformation campaign to short Tesla. You can be a long Tesla shareholder and that is A-OK. You can also look at Tesla's valuation & current financials and think holy moly, what are these people smoking. Welcome to the free market, where we collectively price things based on the interplay between these 2 groups. 3. I can guarantee you that only some statistically insignificant number of shorters care if Tesla goes bankrupt or not. They, in their judgement, see a market opportunity where Tesla is overpriced, and they're calling it. Some of these people might be Tesla owners or fans, who cares. Then the rest of the article is just a general screed / immature clickbait stuff (like, I don't know, putting "Steve Jobs is Dead" for clicks or whatever). People need to grow up.

edf13 7y ago
Exactly this - sounds like he wound up the other guy enough for him to constantly click spam on each of his tweets. Naming his account as he did made it easy for Twitter to ban him
jevgeni 7y ago
Obviously all of this is kind of wrong. Short-term prices aren't driven by fundamentals, but by rumors/sentiment/herding. So thinking that a bunch of short sellers might orchestrate a rumor campaign against a volatile stock isn't much of a stretch. I wouldn't hark on the bankruptcy semantics. Obviously, the original statement doesn't necessarily mean that the bankruptcy will be the result of short selling.
- Nerdfest 7y ago
  This kind of thing is done on occasion. I remember the same being done to Newbridge at the start of the tech bubble, including short-sellers arranging damaging interviews with people who claimed they were executives with the company. It's far easier now with social media. It's not just Tesla either Facebook, and I believe Microsoft as well were caught paying for entities to harm Google's reputation. There are vast amounts of money involved.

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jevgeni 7y ago

Interesting article. Title needs changing, but flagging seems unnecessary.