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I wish more programmers understood metaphysics better. We’re built to be philosophers. The first command God gave Adam was to name every animal, which is the a
by sdegutis 7y ago
I wish more programmers understood metaphysics better. We’re built to be philosophers.
The first command God gave Adam was to name every animal, which is the act of categorizing abstract concepts and building language to concretize these relationships. It’s in our human nature, but especially programmers. But any philosophy approaching the cross is to be damned lest we be convinced we must carry it and die. So we killed Socrates instead. And when the Greeks came back to ask Jesus to be their new Socrates, he explained that a seed must first die alone to become a fruit-bearing tree. The only people alive today that I know who might understand these things are programmers.
But no, even if a copy is made of you, it’s not you. Your brain is a channel for your mind, it is not it’s source.
There is a more “real” level of existence where all our actions really exist. This life is basically a metaphor for that more real life. The physical world is an analogy of what’s really happening. When we eat a plant or animal for example, we are actually consuming some of its life force to replenish part of our finite and diminishing life source. That’s why we can only eat things that were recently alive. We can’t eat rocks or very old meat.
You exist both inside and outside this physical world. A clone with an exact memory of yours is not you. It’s someone else.
- agumonkey 7y agoI'm sure you can get something out of very old meat
- sdegutis 7y agoBut think about it, everyone only has a few days left to live! We just keep extending that, day by day, by eating something else that recently died. And then it’s atoms become part of our bodies. It’s life force gets absorbed into us. But because it has a finite and limited life, it can’t fully stop us from dying. So we need to repeat it again a few hours later!
- agumonkey 7y agoyes, we're carbo/protein battery operated things
- sdegutis 7y agoBut that’s only part of the metaphysics of it all! We actually absorb the properties of what we consume! An apple contains within its seed the potential or power of an apple tree, which is dense and fibrous, and by consuming the apple we absorb its fibrousness and density. An animal has the power of movement, and by consuming its flesh we absorb the power of movement, which is why it builds up our muscle tissue! Metaphysics is the real physics, our physics are only a shadow of that.
- agumonkey 7y agoyou're overthinking we digest the nutrient, it's all below the level of structural appletreeness
- sdegutis 7y agoI’ve been told all my life that I’m overthinking it or that I think too much. The fact is the opposite, the rest of the world doesn’t think enough! I come here to find people who do, to gain any insight they may have (especially on programming) and to share the insight I have received (especially on the true philosophy).
- xaedes 7y ago> I wish more programmers understood metaphysics better. We’re built to be philosophers. Total agree, programmers are professional thinkers after all =) > There is a more “real” level of existence where all our actions really exist. Yea I go with that. Hm, but do you think that your life force analogy is what is the more real level? I think it is just another analogy or explanation for whats really going on. Your "life force" concept actually reminds me of thermodynamic entropy from physics: On which life force does a plant feed? Mostly it is energy from the sun or geothermal processes (think deep-see geysers). So we can say it "feeds" on the entropy of these celestial bodies. Similar we feed on matter configured in a specific way. Containing energy in the specific configuration of atoms which we transform into other more unstructured ones. We fuel our batteries by increasing disorder in our nutrients(including oxygen) and therefore our environment. Now going with the life force concept: I think in your life force concept air should also have some kind of life force. Otherwise how do you explain that people die when locked in air tight room but with enough food and water and everything else? Do you say they life on? Don't they die because the "life force" of the air is all consumed? Similar probably everything else has to get some life force.
- sdegutis 7y agoI still maintain that this life is the analogy for the true reality. Physics is only concerned with the “how” but metaphysics explains the “why”, although both are answering questions about the same events. Physics isn’t untrue, just, by itself it’s missing the bigger picture. The word spirit originally meant breath and the way we became alive is that God breathed into the nostrils of Adam. In the beginning, the spirit of God was said to be upon the face of the earth and it still is, hence wind. But when we cut ourselves off from the spirit of God, we will soon run out of what spirit of God we last breathed in and this die.