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It's not tearing the country's fabric apart. Cities have benefited tremendously from multi-culturalism. Let's not blame austerity measures on immigration - gov

It's not tearing the country's fabric apart. Cities have benefited tremendously from multi-culturalism. Let's not blame austerity measures on immigration - govts around the world have been reducing taxes and decreasing social spending - which has been tearing the world apart. Cultures don't clash, economies do - you just need to plan your economy for a changing world and a changing population.

lowiqprogrammer 7y ago
>Cities have benefited tremendously from multi-culturalism. people always say it benefits them but they fail to mention what it benefits. The top 1% that get cheap labor? The food? I'm sure the 1,400+ children that were raped in Rotherham alone really appreciate your multi-culturalism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...
- aaomidi 7y ago
  I mean, you clearly have an agenda here and a discussion on HN isn't going to help. Child sex abuse isn't limited to a certain group or culture. You bring a good point though, the 1% and cheap labor. There's another solution here that's beneficial to all of us. An economic policy that combats worker exploitation and guarantees a basic living standard (housing, food, transportation, computer & phone, education, healthcare) to all people living in your country. With these, immigrant and native populations won't need to depend on the 1% to survive, and will be able to create businesses, more jobs, more innovation. So yes, you've properly identified the problem, but not the solution.
  - lowiqprogrammer 7y ago
    >you clearly have an agenda here and so do you, you clearly support multi-culturalism, why else would you downvote me and reply? Everyone has an agenda or something they believe in. >Child sex abuse isn't limited to a certain group or culture. It's undeniable that all the people that were arrested in the rape scandal were not of British origin. Look at their mugshots. If they were not in the UK the little girls would not have been raped. >There's another solution here that's beneficial to all of us. An economic policy that combats worker exploitation and guarantees a basic living standard I absolutely agree. My solution is we make Pakistan so economically great that they don't need to come to the UK or any other country. We make Poland, the UK, etc where there does not need to be mass migration from anywhere. I have no problem with limited immigration, I think that's great.
    - standardUser 7y ago
      As an American who doesn't totally understand your political language, the way you discuss "multi-culturalism" sounds bizarre to me. In the US, its' not something to "support" or oppose. It's the nature of America. An America that was not deeply and broadly multicultural does not compute. I suppose I assumed Great Britain was similar, just maybe to a lesser degree. Certainly London is, but perhaps the rest of the country truly is so homogeneous that multiculturalism would be a dramatic change?
      - aaomidi 7y ago
        Yep, as an Iranian American of course I support multiculturalism :)
    - aaomidi 7y ago
      Again, this incident is not what I'm talking about. I'm saying child sex abuse is a problem in literally every group of people. > I absolutely agree. My solution is we make Pakistan so economically great that they don't need to come to the UK or any other country. We make Poland, the UK, etc where there does not need to be mass migration from anywhere. I have no problem with limited immigration, I think that's great. I agree with you as well. However, are we willing to change our way of life in order to stop exploiting various countries around the world?
    - dang 7y ago
      We've banned this account for repeatedly posting flamebait. You can't do that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

lowiqprogrammer 7y ago

>Cities have benefited tremendously from multi-culturalism. people always say it benefits them but they fail to mention what it benefits. The top 1% that get cheap labor? The food? I'm sure the 1,400+ children that were raped in Rotherham alone really appreciate your multi-culturalism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...

aaomidi 7y ago
I mean, you clearly have an agenda here and a discussion on HN isn't going to help. Child sex abuse isn't limited to a certain group or culture. You bring a good point though, the 1% and cheap labor. There's another solution here that's beneficial to all of us. An economic policy that combats worker exploitation and guarantees a basic living standard (housing, food, transportation, computer & phone, education, healthcare) to all people living in your country. With these, immigrant and native populations won't need to depend on the 1% to survive, and will be able to create businesses, more jobs, more innovation. So yes, you've properly identified the problem, but not the solution.
- lowiqprogrammer 7y ago
  >you clearly have an agenda here and so do you, you clearly support multi-culturalism, why else would you downvote me and reply? Everyone has an agenda or something they believe in. >Child sex abuse isn't limited to a certain group or culture. It's undeniable that all the people that were arrested in the rape scandal were not of British origin. Look at their mugshots. If they were not in the UK the little girls would not have been raped. >There's another solution here that's beneficial to all of us. An economic policy that combats worker exploitation and guarantees a basic living standard I absolutely agree. My solution is we make Pakistan so economically great that they don't need to come to the UK or any other country. We make Poland, the UK, etc where there does not need to be mass migration from anywhere. I have no problem with limited immigration, I think that's great.
  - standardUser 7y ago
    As an American who doesn't totally understand your political language, the way you discuss "multi-culturalism" sounds bizarre to me. In the US, its' not something to "support" or oppose. It's the nature of America. An America that was not deeply and broadly multicultural does not compute. I suppose I assumed Great Britain was similar, just maybe to a lesser degree. Certainly London is, but perhaps the rest of the country truly is so homogeneous that multiculturalism would be a dramatic change?
    - aaomidi 7y ago
      Yep, as an Iranian American of course I support multiculturalism :)
  - aaomidi 7y ago
    Again, this incident is not what I'm talking about. I'm saying child sex abuse is a problem in literally every group of people. > I absolutely agree. My solution is we make Pakistan so economically great that they don't need to come to the UK or any other country. We make Poland, the UK, etc where there does not need to be mass migration from anywhere. I have no problem with limited immigration, I think that's great. I agree with you as well. However, are we willing to change our way of life in order to stop exploiting various countries around the world?
  - dang 7y ago
    We've banned this account for repeatedly posting flamebait. You can't do that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html